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Originally Posted by docwra  Seriously?? You induce a drift on a wet roundabout just using power and weight shift? 
Youre either brave or fcuking mad IMO. How do you come off a wand entry without slipping the clutch?? |
It's called matching the revs, and it's not hard.
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Originally Posted by topi Maybe by talking crap |
Come drift against me and see what happens
ask anyone who comes out with me lots, I don't even clutch kick my 180bhp volvo, it's called balance and control, something you obviously have no clue about
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Originally Posted by Mad Cas And whats all the off topic crap, of course you can skid on the street without clutching. Especially if you have Hudsonator powers. Its just down to individual style. |
I'm talking about in the ovlov, you've never been out drifting with me, so stop making assumptions
It might well be about style, but one style is correct, the other is a cheat
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Originally Posted by docwra Fair comment on the Hudsonator powerz though - if it was anyone else that Id have struck down upon them with a sword of righteous bullshit bane. And some Cillit Bang. |
LOL what about the ovlov? That has NO powerz
I'm deadly serious, clutch kicking is a crude way to induce a slide and is massively unsympathetic mechanically. Do you think i made my RPS clutch and standard gearbox last two full years by clutch kicking it? I think not. It's the reason I go through one clutch/gearbox every two years even with 500bhp, whereas clutch kickers go through a gearbox every six months.
Ask any old-school professional driver, they manage to hold their cars on the oversteer limit the entire time, again, it's called balance and control, without it, you will never be a pro drifter, drifting isn't drifting, drifting is racing but you keep the car in heavy oversteer rather than keeping it straight, it still requires the same skillset, and thats why all these racers (mark Jonston (sp), tony green, Kris Meek etc etc) come into the sport and rock, it's just pushing the car OVER the limit rather than holding it AT the limit. Good racers will always make good drifters with the right tuition, the same cannot always be said of drifters making good racers.
Sorry if you don't believe me, but come out in my car and I'll prove it
The ONLY time i clutch kick is, again, a cheat. It's when i want to take a slow corner in third gear, sometimes it'll need a pop to get it above 3krpm, but like i said, it's a cheat, if I was doing it properly, I'd do it in second and then upshift, doing it in third is just me getting lazy.
Back on topic, the point of the above was, that if I was renting out a car and teaching people, I'd be teaching them about balance and car control FIRST, before I teach them to drift, that would mean that a) once they get the hang of it they will learn faster and atain a higher level of skills b) I won't have to worry about killing the rental cars clutch and c) they won't have to worry about breaking their own car if they decide to take drifting up properly afterwards. This is because you might well eventually learn to hold a donut/skid, but without an understanding of car control, you will never progress.