helmet and overalls - Drifting forum

taz5430 · 02-12-2007, 12:42

is a snell sa95 ok to use in the am series and does the race sute/boots and gloves have to be fireproof ?

DriftLexus · 02-12-2007, 16:31

7: Driver Regulations

7 – 1 Drivers must wear approved fire protective apparel and safety device/s with a minimum equipment level of:

7 – 2 Crash helmet (open face helmets are allowed)

Certified Helmet (Half faced permitted) FIA8860-2004 Snell Memorial Foundation SA95, SA2000, SA2005 SFI Foundation Spec 31.2, Spec 31.1A, Spec 31.2A British Helmet Standard BS6658 Type A/FR, BS6658-85 Type A Head and Neck restraints are optional

7 – 3 Racing overalls

7 – 4 Racing boots

7 – 5 Gloves

sammysideways · 02-12-2007, 18:21

ok does that mean gold stickered motorcycle helmets are ok or we switching to full motorsport jobs?

DriftLexus · 02-12-2007, 18:22

no motorcycle, have ever been allowed as far as i know

Captain Muppet · 03-12-2007, 08:26

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Originally Posted by DriftLexus

no motorcycle, have ever been allowed as far as i know

Eh? My bike lids (all three of them) were fine for Eurodrift.

Pikey · 03-12-2007, 09:53

'gold sticker' (British Association of Motorcycle Sport, or something like that) helmets will meet a whole host of regulations - check the label inside the helmet, I'm sure it'll meet one off that list.

MJG · 03-12-2007, 10:53

No no no, if it's approved to smash your head against the floor and trees and walls at 150mph - that doesn't mean it's approved to maybe knock your head against your roll cage padding. lol.

I think it's time I got a new helmet anyway, mines had it.

FlikstRR · 03-12-2007, 12:49

bah. anyone wanna run a group buy on overalls n boots??

I think my karting gloves should be ok, although I have no idea about my helmet. :s

sammysideways · 03-12-2007, 12:58

fook motorcycle lid i used last year isnt going to be upto the job...ill have to get a proper job now like most peeps i believe.

Pikey · 03-12-2007, 13:28

I need gloves and boots too. I hate driving in gloves, I'm going to blame every time I get knocked out on having to wear gloves

Gavwan · 03-12-2007, 18:09

A group buy on FIA harnesses, up-to-spec helmets and race suits would be a good move if anyone has any ideas

Andy_f · 04-12-2007, 13:15

Question regarding this, I'm aware a proban suit is required, but are there any special requirements for the boots and gloves? Sorry if this is already written somewhere and I've missed it.

Baba · 04-12-2007, 13:38

Oh man! Why is a bike helmet not good enough. Can anyone explain the logic behind it?

sammysideways · 04-12-2007, 13:41

i think most/some are. just looked at my old bike lid and it meets regs so dont worry to much.

ren_juanjo · 04-12-2007, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baba

Oh man! Why is a bike helmet not good enough. Can anyone explain the logic behind it?

After getting a bike helmet for the british open from my friend whos a salesman, and having to take it back as it didnt have the right safety marks, he did some research for me. Its to do with the number of protective composite shells in the construction of the helmet. I cant remember which way round it is for bikes/cars having one or two shells but each is designed to cope with different impacts.

Bike helmets are designed to cope with one large primary impact. (ie. the helmet hitting a car that has driven into the bike) Car helmets are designed to cope with a smaller initial impact and then possible subsequent multiple impacts. (i.e. a helmet hitting off a roll cage or B pillar on initial impact followed by smaller hits during subsequent impacts such as when a car rolls.)

David Wilson · 04-12-2007, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ren_juanjo

Bike helmets are designed to cope with one large primary impact. (ie. the helmet hitting a car that has driven into the bike) Car helmets are designed to cope with a smaller initial impact and then possible subsequent multiple impacts. (i.e. a helmet hitting off a roll cage or B pillar on initial impact followed by smaller hits during subsequent impacts such as when a car rolls.)

Does that mean if you crash a bike you will only hit the road once?

lil ben · 04-12-2007, 19:28

Got told something similar by the woman in the shop where I got mine. She started going on about egg shells but I was too busy pretending to listen while staring at her boobs

ren_juanjo · 04-12-2007, 19:33

dave: hehe very good point. Basically i think theres only so much protection you can really buy yourself, and bike riders do tend to expose themselves to impacts you'd otherwise avoid in the car.

Basically, after hitting the car windscreen dead on, you're on your own!

Jon_E30 · 04-12-2007, 19:58

Then a bike helmet is more safe!? And should meet regs, depending on price that is.

Baba · 04-12-2007, 20:03

Hmm... still not convinced but if its needed then we will just have to part with the money

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02-12-2007, 16:31	#2 (permalink)
DriftLexus BDC Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,141	7: Driver Regulations 7 – 1 Drivers must wear approved fire protective apparel and safety device/s with a minimum equipment level of: 7 – 2 Crash helmet (open face helmets are allowed) Certified Helmet (Half faced permitted) FIA8860-2004 Snell Memorial Foundation SA95, SA2000, SA2005 SFI Foundation Spec 31.2, Spec 31.1A, Spec 31.2A British Helmet Standard BS6658 Type A/FR, BS6658-85 Type A Head and Neck restraints are optional 7 – 3 Racing overalls 7 – 4 Racing boots 7 – 5 Gloves

02-12-2007, 18:21	#3 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,374	ok does that mean gold stickered motorcycle helmets are ok or we switching to full motorsport jobs?

02-12-2007, 18:22	#4 (permalink)
DriftLexus BDC Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,141	no motorcycle, have ever been allowed as far as i know

03-12-2007, 09:53	#6 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 3,111	'gold sticker' (British Association of Motorcycle Sport, or something like that) helmets will meet a whole host of regulations - check the label inside the helmet, I'm sure it'll meet one off that list.

03-12-2007, 10:53	#7 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 10,688	No no no, if it's approved to smash your head against the floor and trees and walls at 150mph - that doesn't mean it's approved to maybe knock your head against your roll cage padding. lol. I think it's time I got a new helmet anyway, mines had it.

03-12-2007, 12:49	#8 (permalink)
FlikstRR dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 2,082	bah. anyone wanna run a group buy on overalls n boots?? I think my karting gloves should be ok, although I have no idea about my helmet. :s

03-12-2007, 12:58	#9 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,374	fook motorcycle lid i used last year isnt going to be upto the job...ill have to get a proper job now like most peeps i believe.

03-12-2007, 13:28	#10 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 3,111	I need gloves and boots too. I hate driving in gloves, I'm going to blame every time I get knocked out on having to wear gloves

03-12-2007, 18:09	#11 (permalink)
Gavwan touge runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 175	A group buy on FIA harnesses, up-to-spec helmets and race suits would be a good move if anyone has any ideas

04-12-2007, 13:15	#12 (permalink)
Andy_f Quad tone. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Redditch/Birmingham Posts: 1,766	Question regarding this, I'm aware a proban suit is required, but are there any special requirements for the boots and gloves? Sorry if this is already written somewhere and I've missed it.

04-12-2007, 13:38	#13 (permalink)
Baba I like!!!!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London Posts: 5,088	Oh man! Why is a bike helmet not good enough. Can anyone explain the logic behind it?

04-12-2007, 13:41	#14 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,374	i think most/some are. just looked at my old bike lid and it meets regs so dont worry to much.

04-12-2007, 19:28	#17 (permalink)
lil ben Lurker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 709	Got told something similar by the woman in the shop where I got mine. She started going on about egg shells but I was too busy pretending to listen while staring at her boobs

04-12-2007, 19:33	#18 (permalink)
ren_juanjo buttercakes!! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: fife, scotlandshire Posts: 728	dave: hehe very good point. Basically i think theres only so much protection you can really buy yourself, and bike riders do tend to expose themselves to impacts you'd otherwise avoid in the car. Basically, after hitting the car windscreen dead on, you're on your own!

04-12-2007, 19:58	#19 (permalink)
Jon_E30 SkidSkidWinWin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Essex Drift Union FTW! Posts: 258	Then a bike helmet is more safe!? And should meet regs, depending on price that is.

04-12-2007, 20:03	#20 (permalink)
Baba I like!!!!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London Posts: 5,088	Hmm... still not convinced but if its needed then we will just have to part with the money