BDC 2008 rules and regulations - Page 8 - Drifting forum

DriftLexus · 17-03-2008, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Captain Muppet

Arse. Looks like I have to drill holes in the only decent panel left on my car. Stupid Mazda stupid battery in the stupid boot. Nuts.

Also my lid is marked "BS6658 1985 Type A" which I assumed was OK, but the regs say "BS6658-85 Type A". Any official word on this BDC?

BS6658 1985 Type A and BS6658-85 Type A are the same thing, only that the year has been abbreviated on one of the labels

Pikey · 25-03-2008, 15:25

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Originally Posted by BDC

If you have a breather pipe which does not return into the inlet system on the car an oil catch tank is required.

So if you have standard breather system you dont need a catch tank

We dont need boot pins if there's nothing in the boot

Sorry, just triple checking through stuff and aswering my own questions.

However, no-one answered this question yet: The Driftworks seat subframes have a seatbelt mounting point - are we ok to use this to attach one of the lap straps?

Captain Muppet · 25-03-2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by DriftLexus

BS6658 1985 Type A and BS6658-85 Type A are the same thing, only that the year has been abbreviated on one of the labels

Thanks, I've been worrying about this even more than getting the car there in one bit. I'd hate not to drive because of a couple of letters on a label.

DriftLexus · 25-03-2008, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Pikey

So if you have standard breather system you dont need a catch tank

We dont need boot pins if there's nothing in the boot

Sorry, just triple checking through stuff and aswering my own questions.

However, no-one answered this question yet: The Driftworks seat subframes have a seatbelt mounting point - are we ok to use this to attach one of the lap straps?

ideally both mountings for the belts should be to the "same" structure so the stress is equal, its possible the stress added to the seat frame in an accident , could cause it to deform or collapse.

by having your harness anchored to the chassis not only holds you in, but holds you, and the seat and reduces the loading on the seat mountings.

the scrutineer will be looking for the harness mounting points to be sufficient

royal · 25-03-2008, 16:45

Erm....does that mean harness points on the DW seat runners are not acceptable? can we have an official answer on that as it may cause issues?

DriftLexus · 25-03-2008, 16:47

i said Ideally.

also said Sufficient

i,ll clarify with the regs

Pikey · 25-03-2008, 16:50

I think I'll drill another hole and use the other driftworks eyebolt plate I've got spare, just to be safe. It's a bit of a squeeze using the seatframe point anyway

DriftLexus · 25-03-2008, 16:57

"....subframe would be classed as part of the seat so the subframe would need bolting down as in the regs and as a aftermarket frame would be mounted on the floor not using the original mounts then it would need spreader plates.

by the way when plates are described as 5" they do not have to be square - 6.5x4" 8x3etc is fine if that fits better its the area thats needed........."

and from the rules and regulations..

4-7. Safety harnesses must be used with a minimum of four fixing points (although we recommend a harness with five fixing points) and comply to SFI regulations or above and must be securely attached to the vehicles body or roll cage for both driver and passenger seats. The straps from the shoulders should be mounted as near to horizontal as possible – not on the floor immediately behind the seat

i would say it is far better to drill a hole, and put an eyebolt into the vehicle body, its much more safer

if the harness is mounted to the seat for RD 1, it will have to be rectified for round 2

Pikey · 26-03-2008, 11:20

The rules say the external activation button for the battery isolator must be located on the nearside (that's the passenger/left side isnt it) of the car, but there's no guidance as to which side the fire extinguisher pull cable should be - and as I've done that first I happen to have put it on the drivers side!

I'm going to put them both in the same place (on the drivers side), unless someone says otherwise?

Kev · 26-03-2008, 18:27

standard seat belt mount is on the seat, so i cant imagine there being any problem with mounting one of the harness points to that same point.

howler · 26-03-2008, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Pikey

The rules say the external activation button for the battery isolator must be located on the nearside (that's the passenger/left side isnt it) of the car, but there's no guidance as to which side the fire extinguisher pull cable should be - and as I've done that first I happen to have put it on the drivers side!

I'm going to put them both in the same place (on the drivers side), unless someone says otherwise?

I would imagine they would want them both in the same place on the passenger side

DriftLexus · 26-03-2008, 22:54

they should both be on the passenger side of the car

cefiro_drifta · 10-04-2008, 22:51

just one question ... iirc u have to do at least 5 round out of the 6 for your points to be counted but if u only do 3-4 will your scores be put on on the score board so people can see but they wont be counted towards the actuall placing ??

just wondering really as i want to do the rounds i can which is only 3 due to family commitments and other things but wouldnt mind see points on the table if i should get any

thanks

General Banter · 23-04-2008, 16:28

A quick one for you. I have the OEM metal bonnet, does that still need to be secured by bonnet pins and do they have to be flush-fit? For AM class.

cefiro_drifta · 23-04-2008, 16:35

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Originally Posted by cefiro_drifta

just one question ... iirc u have to do at least 5 round out of the 6 for your points to be counted but if u only do 3-4 will your scores be put on on the score board so people can see but they wont be counted towards the actuall placing ??

just wondering really as i want to do the rounds i can which is only 3 due to family commitments and other things but wouldnt mind see points on the table if i should get any

thanks

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Jimthejunior · 23-04-2008, 16:44

Ceffy, im sure its only if you do all 6 rounds your best 5 will be counted. So if you score points in all three rounds you will be placed accordingly on the table.

I don't see why if you didn't do all 6 rounds your points wouldn't count. Never saw that mentioned.

cefiro_drifta · 23-04-2008, 16:45

sounds more reasonable than making u do at least 5 rounds just to place anywhere .... thanks jim

Captain Muppet · 23-04-2008, 16:50

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Originally Posted by General Banter

A quick one for you. I have the OEM metal bonnet, does that still need to be secured by bonnet pins and do they have to be flush-fit? For AM class.

I think it needs to have pins - if there is a fire/issue the marshalls can get the bonnet up to sort it out without having to fumble around in the cabin by the shattered legs of the remains of the slowly roasting driver.
I've scared myself a little there.

The pins don't have to be flush, mine aren't and I have four of the buggers holding my bonnet down.

Lex · 23-04-2008, 17:42

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Originally Posted by General Banter

A quick one for you. I have the OEM metal bonnet, does that still need to be secured by bonnet pins and do they have to be flush-fit? For AM class.

Sweep told me that bonnet pins were not a must to AM class - best buzz him to confirm

fatdave · 05-05-2008, 20:12

Hi guys i can't find the regsulations on the BDC web site. Could someone put a link up.

Cheers

25-03-2008, 16:47	#146 (permalink)
DriftLexus BDC Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,132	i said Ideally. also said Sufficient i,ll clarify with the regs Last edited by DriftLexus : 25-03-2008 at 17:01.

25-03-2008, 16:57	#148 (permalink)
DriftLexus BDC Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,132	"....subframe would be classed as part of the seat so the subframe would need bolting down as in the regs and as a aftermarket frame would be mounted on the floor not using the original mounts then it would need spreader plates. by the way when plates are described as 5" they do not have to be square - 6.5x4" 8x3etc is fine if that fits better its the area thats needed........." and from the rules and regulations.. 4-7. Safety harnesses must be used with a minimum of four fixing points (although we recommend a harness with five fixing points) and comply to SFI regulations or above and must be securely attached to the vehicles body or roll cage for both driver and passenger seats. The straps from the shoulders should be mounted as near to horizontal as possible – not on the floor immediately behind the seat i would say it is far better to drill a hole, and put an eyebolt into the vehicle body, its much more safer if the harness is mounted to the seat for RD 1, it will have to be rectified for round 2 Last edited by DriftLexus : 25-03-2008 at 16:59.

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General Banter doughnutter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 38	A quick one for you. I have the OEM metal bonnet, does that still need to be secured by bonnet pins and do they have to be flush-fit? For AM class. Last edited by General Banter : 23-04-2008 at 16:35.

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25-03-2008, 16:45	#145 (permalink)
royal S1- F.T break! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,890	Erm....does that mean harness points on the DW seat runners are not acceptable? can we have an official answer on that as it may cause issues?

25-03-2008, 16:50	#147 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,999	I think I'll drill another hole and use the other driftworks eyebolt plate I've got spare, just to be safe. It's a bit of a squeeze using the seatframe point anyway

26-03-2008, 11:20	#149 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,999	The rules say the external activation button for the battery isolator must be located on the nearside (that's the passenger/left side isnt it) of the car, but there's no guidance as to which side the fire extinguisher pull cable should be - and as I've done that first I happen to have put it on the drivers side! I'm going to put them both in the same place (on the drivers side), unless someone says otherwise?

26-03-2008, 18:27	#150 (permalink)
Kev touge runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 234	standard seat belt mount is on the seat, so i cant imagine there being any problem with mounting one of the harness points to that same point.

26-03-2008, 22:54	#152 (permalink)
DriftLexus BDC Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,132	they should both be on the passenger side of the car

10-04-2008, 22:51	#153 (permalink)
cefiro_drifta mad pointing munkey Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: surrey Posts: 10,697	just one question ... iirc u have to do at least 5 round out of the 6 for your points to be counted but if u only do 3-4 will your scores be put on on the score board so people can see but they wont be counted towards the actuall placing ?? just wondering really as i want to do the rounds i can which is only 3 due to family commitments and other things but wouldnt mind see points on the table if i should get any thanks

23-04-2008, 16:44	#156 (permalink)
Jimthejunior Represent Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,303	Ceffy, im sure its only if you do all 6 rounds your best 5 will be counted. So if you score points in all three rounds you will be placed accordingly on the table. I don't see why if you didn't do all 6 rounds your points wouldn't count. Never saw that mentioned.

23-04-2008, 16:45	#157 (permalink)
cefiro_drifta mad pointing munkey Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: surrey Posts: 10,697	sounds more reasonable than making u do at least 5 rounds just to place anywhere .... thanks jim

05-05-2008, 20:12	#160 (permalink)
fatdave doughnutter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: christchurch Posts: 73	Hi guys i can't find the regsulations on the BDC web site. Could someone put a link up. Cheers