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Old 19-02-2008, 10:15   #81 (permalink)
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Anyone interested in starting a group buy for this stuff?

AA/113-50 OMP ROLL CAGE BLACK FOAM RUBBER TUBING 50mm on eBay, also, Subaru, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 19-Mar-08 22:15:32 GMT)
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:17   #82 (permalink)
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Yeh I forgot the tow eye.
And I already had the race suit.

Youre going for a flashy suit Id guess with that price tho. I just went for the cheapest 'get me in the gate' HTH suit, way back when they got deemed necessary

SO Id probabaly need a new one next year anyway seeing as I think Ive washed it a few times and you only get 6 washes before theyre regarded non fire resistant - from memory
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:20   #83 (permalink)
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just out of interest, and my skills are obviously im a long way from competeting so my opinion may not matter, but just looked at the link above, that looks pretty damn thin.



when i had my last cage i padded it with those big long, sausage like swimming floats,

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sliced down the middle and cable tied on, which give you fooking tons of padding about an inch sticking out all the way round. now obviously its not designed for that! so not likely to be FIA approved but id of thought it offers ten times the cushioning of a thin sleeve of rubber?
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:23   #84 (permalink)
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TBH Baba I dont see the point in that stuff. It doesnt look as good as mine.





Theres no WAY you would be able to bend the padding I have in mine like that. So I can only presume its cheap tat and not reccomended for anythign more than knees protection etc.

If you look at the door bar you can get an idea of the way its offset cut, so you can put it on the roll cage without getting in the way of the cars structure (if that makes sense)

I think Carter used 5m and he's tight as arse holes with uneccessary shit. I used 6m so I could get better runs of padding, rather than a load of off cuts all over the place. :0
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:26   #85 (permalink)
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TBH Baba I dont see the point in that stuff. It doesnt look as good as mine.
But is your padding FIA approved? If yes where did you buy it and how much?

Remember if it aint FIA approved then apparently we need to go F*ck ourselves.
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:29   #86 (permalink)
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Ill try and find it now for you, but it was a year ago and Im not sure I can.

Its Fire retardant I know that and thats what the rules required at the time. Its passed EDC scrutineering, so, err, I think Ill let that speak for itself
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:32   #87 (permalink)
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But is your padding FIA approved? If yes where did you buy it and how much?

Remember if it aint FIA approved then apparently we need to go F*ck ourselves.

not true, in the rules and regs it says nothing of padding being FIA, just has to be fire retardent, and matts is fire retardent, he has longacre stuff like what i have had to buy
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:37   #88 (permalink)
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OK Baba, Ive researched this for you on our D:MON site, as we all had the same to do and all had similar shopping lists this time last year. Steve Bought 4M from DW I think , but I bought the Longacre stuff from Tweaks, as I said earlier in the thread...

Process Protector Roll Bar Padding | Roll Bar Padding | Demon Tweeks Motorsport, Motorcycle, Modifying, Parts and Accessories
The ultimate in roll bar padding, having a 15/8"ID offset hole and 1" thick high density padding giving you the best protection possible. Flame retardant. Length: 36"/914mm."
THe rules from EDC were "Parts of roll cage within 150mm of occupant’s helmets must be fitted with fire resistant padding."

And from what Ive read on the EDC forum, the rules arent changing from last year.

FWIW, ALL FIA padding is stamped, so dont get ripped off

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FIA 8857-2001 Type A Homologated Roll Cage Padding.

FIA padding is stamped with certification. Roll bar padding is not just roll bar padding. Tests have proven that roll bar padding plays a vital role in decreasing the potential of serious injury in crashes.

The BSCI padding set the industry standards for quality and proven additional safety.

The materials used to manufacture the BSCI padding were formulated to absorb impact, which in turn reduces impact energy received by the driver.

BSCI's padding is made from a modified open-cell polyurethane foam.

Cut the padding to shape it on turns and bends in the roll bar.

• Available in colors Black, Red and Blue
• Molded in acrylic adhesive for easy installation
• Will not melt or drip in a fire
• Bends to fit 7” (175 mm) radius
• Easy to cut and shape for custom installation
• Comes in 3ft long sections.
FIA padding is stamped with certification.

Meets the 201.U and 302 standard of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

1 3/4" - 2” (44-50 mm) Bar Diameter
30 mm Thick
36” (915 mm) Length

1 1/4”- 1 5/8” (32-42 mm) Bar Diameter
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:40   #89 (permalink)
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Cheers Matt. Youre a star.

Chris £10 is cheap as chips and a fair price I think.
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:41   #90 (permalink)
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look at matts last post there is a link to demon tweeks there.
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:49   #91 (permalink)
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look at matts last post there is a link to demon tweeks there.
Yeah I did a fast edit

I would like to apologise for being such a grumpy bastard

I thought the only stuff we were allowed to use was £30 a metre thats why I got a bit excited

Soooowwyyyyyy!!!
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Old 19-02-2008, 10:49   #92 (permalink)
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Yeah I did a fast edit

I would like to apologise for being such a grumpy bastard

I thought the only stuff we were allowed to use was £30 a metre thats why I got a bit excited

Soooowwyyyyyy!!!
well take youre excitement off to the land of internet pron and be happy again at cheap cusions for your head!!!
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Old 19-02-2008, 12:20   #93 (permalink)
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Shop round first then.

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Old 19-02-2008, 12:55   #94 (permalink)
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so the OMP stuff at £12 for 2m is cheaper then... and FIA.
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Old 19-02-2008, 17:21   #95 (permalink)
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Look what I found . Looks like the same stuff you bought from Ebay Flik.

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Old 18-03-2008, 11:41   #96 (permalink)
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Thought I'd bump this as I've just fitted some of the OMP fireproof stuff. Is anyone doing the main hoop behind the seats? Didn't see the point as its behind you and no contact is possible between helmet and cage.

[Still have to trim the front bar a bit to get rid of the 'bulge']



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Old 18-03-2008, 12:20   #97 (permalink)
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Yes, you need to do it, A if its 15cm from your head and B) if you go into the armco bacwords, seats/fixings brake had your head will hit the cage!
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Old 18-03-2008, 12:45   #98 (permalink)
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Im not doing the door bars as the regs state 150mm from the occupant's helmets. The door bars only NEED doing if I'm misinterpreting the meaning of 'helmet'

My front windscreen bar isn't within 150mm of my head.

I also thought that by the word occupants being used that I would do the passenger side too.

2M of the OMP stuff I've used will do the front roof bar and the two side bars like I've done with about 5cm to spare.
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Old 18-03-2008, 13:50   #99 (permalink)
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The padding needs to be fitted where any contact can be made with any part of the body.

front legs
centre hoop
door bars

etc etc

if passengers are likely to be in the car, then padding needs to be fitted on that side of the car aswell......

a little bit of common sense will dictate that if there is any part of a steel tube(read...roll cage) that a part of your body can impact....legs/ankle, shoulders etc, then its at least wise to put some form of impact resistance on its surface

Jord, or anyone else with a similer cage, you will need to cover the areas marked in read as they are a sharp projection, especially the one that sits just behind your head, that joint will very easily split open and pierce your helmet in an impact spilling matter all over the place, and ruining your loverly seats

the green bit, if its withing the distance stipulated by the regs will also need doing


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Old 18-03-2008, 14:02   #100 (permalink)
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if passengers will be taken out, then padding, will have to be fitted to the passenger side

im sure BDC has the very best interests of the drivers in regards to any safety issue or rule that they feel must be introduced
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