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Old 16-04-2008, 19:46   #1 (permalink)
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Twinning Rules

Can someone just clear this up for me just in case I make the top 16 (not that likely!)

Am I right in thinking both cars set off and then you have a cone marking 'the full throttle' point where you have to nail it

Is there some kind of rule against blatantley outrunning a slower car or something like that or is that a different set of rules

If so how does that work?
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Old 16-04-2008, 19:47   #2 (permalink)
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thats how it is buddy

cars have to be same speed up to the cone
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Old 16-04-2008, 19:49   #3 (permalink)
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Oh right so its no out-running up to the cone and flat out after

That makes a bit more sense
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Old 16-04-2008, 19:51   #4 (permalink)
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Cars leave together and the lead car needs to go first. The lead car initiates and the trail car needs to match the drift of the lead car.

At BDC, Julian explained that he wanted to see chase car's attacking during the drifts then backing off during the transitions.
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Old 16-04-2008, 19:51   #5 (permalink)
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its for the Corolla's


what will that start lol
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Old 16-04-2008, 22:03   #6 (permalink)
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How about spins???

I the chase car spun on first coner and the leader car do the same just few secunds after, who take the advantage????


Saw on D1 dvd, this will be 0-0, and the advantage will go to who won the another lap( 1st or 2rd lap), I'm right?????
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Old 17-04-2008, 06:36   #7 (permalink)
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Mate, I'm sure that if they both spin, the car that spins first loses. I haven't seen the option video that we spoke about but I think that's why things went that way at Round 1.
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Old 17-04-2008, 06:42   #8 (permalink)
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Mate, I'm sure that if they both spin, the car that spins first loses. I haven't seen the option video that we spoke about but I think that's why things went that way at Round 1.
Personally I'd say that a spin:spin = 0:0.

As for the original question, both cars should stay together up to the cone but the slower car of the two should be going more or less full throttle (so no dawdling up to the cone) and the faster car holding back so it doesnt pull away or overtake, then past the cone the chase car tucks in behind the lead car which should be going totally flat out. Its always a good idea to have some knowledge of your opponents car so you know what sort of performance to expect from the start line.

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Old 17-04-2008, 07:14   #9 (permalink)
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Personally I'd say that a spin:spin = 0:0.
In that case, Bruno would have gone through, as he and Scotty span on the second leg when Bruno was leading after the first, but Scotty got a 10:0
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:57   #10 (permalink)
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Interesting subject.

I have a question:

What if you are in say a 200bhp car with 205/16 tyres and you're up against a 700bhp car with 325/18 semi slick tyres?

Fair enough you stay together up to the cone... but what if you are blatently outmatched (not due to lack of skill) and left half way down the track due to the other car being stupidly powerful and grippy?

How would you score that?
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:12   #11 (permalink)
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i suppose they take that into consideration at a guess ...

cos its totally unfair if its .. say eg : - scotty 'v' retrodan's corolla ...
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:12   #12 (permalink)
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Interesting subject.

I have a question:

What if you are in say a 200bhp car with 205/16 tyres and you're up against a 700bhp car with 325/18 semi slick tyres?

Fair enough you stay together up to the cone... but what if you are blatently outmatched (not due to lack of skill) and left half way down the track due to the other car being stupidly powerful and grippy?

How would you score that?
you get your turn to even it up when you are in front, the 700bhp car is going to be having difficulties with a slow car in front and clever driving from the less powerful car could easily result in a spin for mr.megapowahhh
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:25   #13 (permalink)
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you get your turn to even it up when you are in front, the 700bhp car is going to be having difficulties with a slow car in front and clever driving from the less powerful car could easily result in a spin for mr.megapowahhh
Yup that is true but what I meant is how would you judge the first lap when the powerful car is in front?

Would you still judge it say 4:6 (considering the power difference) or will it be a 2:8?
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:45   #14 (permalink)
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good question
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:49   #15 (permalink)
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i think its probably going to answer many questions if the judges comment.
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Old 17-04-2008, 12:02   #16 (permalink)
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Regarding the low power low grip car vs the good one, well you should take it in to account a LITTLE bit, but hardly anything at all, otherwise it totally defies the point of modifying your car if you get any real advantage by having an inferior car.

IMO if the powerful car leaves it for dead its a 7:3 or something, but if the cars were equally powerful and grippy but left it for dead in the same way itd be 8:2 or summat.
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Old 17-04-2008, 12:12   #17 (permalink)
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But Stavros whether we admit or not twinning is a race...

Every motorsport has power limits and classes in place to avoid unfair advantage.

I am not complaining, merely pondering...
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Old 17-04-2008, 14:19   #18 (permalink)
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Interesting subject.

I have a question:

What if you are in say a 200bhp car with 205/16 tyres and you're up against a 700bhp car with 325/18 semi slick tyres?

Fair enough you stay together up to the cone... but what if you are blatently outmatched (not due to lack of skill) and left half way down the track due to the other car being stupidly powerful and grippy?

How would you score that?
In D1 and EDC breifings, drivers in higher powered cars are told they must not leave a slower powered car behind, they must drive using their mirrors and allow a lower powered car to keep up, once at the cone then they can do what they want.

As for the spin rules, if both cars spin, the driver to spin second wins 10 : 0 as at Teesside with Scotty vs Bruno.

That must be how Julian must read it as he was judging...

I'm sure the BDC will stick to the rules implemented by Mr Smith

(Other championships are available and may use different rules)*

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Old 17-04-2008, 14:22   #19 (permalink)
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But Stavros whether we admit or not twinning is a race...
Woo there Baba, a race...? NOT... Its not a race but a show of supreme car control and skill, being able to put your car within INCHES of another car while sideways at speed....

Now go wash your mouth out or go do time attack lol
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