Rollcage rule for Amateur class 2009 - Drifting forum

BDC · 30-06-2008, 12:21

Ladies and gents

We did a poll regarding twin drifting within the amateur class in 2009.

We have taken everything into consideration and have made a decision.

Twinning will not take place in the Amateur class 2009.

The BDC is the starting point for drivers wishing to compete in competitive drifting, with this in mind the BDC realises the cost implications when becoming involved with any form of motorsport.

Safety is the most important aspect of motorsport that has to be considered, to allow amateur drivers to twin drift we would require a full 6 point rollcage to be fitted, the cost of fitting a full cage may force drivers away from drifting in a safe controlled environment. We also realise that the fitting of a full rollcage with door bars in a car used on a daily basis may be another reason drivers would be put off driving in competition.

We have made the decision to implement the rules we stated at the start of 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDC rules and regulations

AM Series. Roll Cage Information

All though a roll cage is not required in 2008, it is highly recommended that Am cars be fitted with a 4 point rear cage. This must include a diagonal bar from above the drivers head down to the passenger side of the B pillar or lower section of the passenger side rear brace bar.

The roll cage should be constructed within the same rules as for Pro class.

Bolt-in or fully welded Cages may be manufactured from seamless T45 or cold drawn steel tubing.

All cages regardless of material must have a main hoop (B pillar) from 45x2.5mm, 50x2mm tube. 38x2.5mm and 42x2mm is permissible for all other parts of the cage's construction. A 1mm manufacturing tolerance in tube sizes will be allowed.

Where used, all fasteners must be high tensile - ISO 8.8 or better and a minimum bolt size of 8mm.

All roll cages must be either welded or bolted to the body, each body/tube securing plate must be of the following specifications (for bolt in cages a plate either side of the body is required: 5 square inch plate with a minimum 3mm thickness.

Please note; This rule will become mandatory from Jan 1st 2009 for any car wishing to participate in drifting.

Half rollcages are available from Fabricage - the official supplier of rollcages to the BDC.

We are considering implementing a full rollcage rule for all cars to compete in the BDC in 2010. This will be discussed and the out come will be announced in good time.

We hope the above explains the reasoning, we hope you will support our decision and look forward to your continuing support of the BDC.

Many thanks

The BDC team.

MJG · 30-06-2008, 12:47

Probably made the right decision there guys, I don't mind having a rollcage but I know for many people it just rules them out and it would turn drifting into an elitist sport. The fact drifting competitively can be easy to get into is one of the main appeals I think.

Jord · 30-06-2008, 13:01

The right choice

royal · 30-06-2008, 13:23

Fair enough decision. Only thing that comes to mind is where BDC is heading in the future with regards to the PRO-AM (and above if ever relevent?). Personally I'd hope that as the sport gets bigger, which touch wood its doing this year and onwards, we get more faster tracks where arguably a roll cage is necessary whether twinning or not? My whole motivation for entering is to get seat time on more tracks that I might not be able to get to very often on normal practice days. I'd like to hope that more faster places like Lydden become available as the sports popularity grows and it doesn't look like the sort of place you want to be flying towards a tyre wall without a cage? Surely hitting a tyre wall is going to hurt more than hitting another car? seeing as the cars are usually travelling in the same direction??

I'm guess I'm going over already considered ground but just thinking aloud as its nice to have goals for the next season

m4drx · 30-06-2008, 13:36

i have to agree with both points as im planning to use my BDC car daily for a short term and along with the cost it was a difficult obstacle.

looking forward to the coming season.

Crosshatch · 30-06-2008, 13:48

Just to clairfy,

Will the am's need a cage at all for next season?

BDC · 30-06-2008, 13:52

Hello Marc

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDC rules and regulations

All though a roll cage is not required in 2008, it is highly recommended that Am cars be fitted with a 4 point rear cage. This must include a diagonal bar from above the drivers head down to the passenger side of the B pillar or lower section of the passenger side rear brace bar.

Please note; This rule will become mandatory from Jan 1st 2009 for any car wishing to participate in drifting. (Edit) within BDC competitions)

A half cage will be required for 2009 yes.

Many thanks

The BDC team.

Crosshatch · 30-06-2008, 14:01

Cheers

drifter r32 · 30-06-2008, 16:10

Good call

rgfinn · 30-06-2008, 20:07

can fabricage easily add the necessary bars to a half cage in order to make it a full cage? or do you have to simply replace the half with a complete full cage?
just thinking i might just get the full cage anyway, on the off chance that i some day make it to pro-am! got to get to am first of course!!!

niko · 30-06-2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgfinn

... just thinking i might just get the full cage anyway, on the off chance that i some day make it to pro-am! got to get to am first of course!!!

Seems to be a sound decision BDC.

Sorry if it's inappropriate. Feel free to delete. *blush*

rgfinn · 30-06-2008, 20:33

you've convinced me niko, full cage ftw

tech · 30-06-2008, 21:36

Bit of a pain for us possible 2009 AM's thinking we could do it super cheap, but it's Safety first and the reputation of a growing Motor sport to think about

jamie k · 30-06-2008, 23:08

I just need to find one for an mx5 now.......

taz5430 · 03-07-2008, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie k

I just need to find one for an mx5 now.......

if ya find one let me know where from

Maximus Driftus · 06-07-2008, 22:37

probably it's been asked before... cusco bolt-in cages - are they up to spec?

shane · 06-07-2008, 22:47

Would THESE be up to standard?

Captain Muppet · 08-07-2008, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by shane

Would THESE be up to standard?

Well as the tubing is 45*2.5 and they have a diagonal I'd say yes. The regulations are at the top of this thread, you can check for yourself.

Anyway - nice work BDC, this means I'll be back next year

I'll upgrade to a full cage if I can though - it looks like selling my half cage shouldn't be a problem...

PhatBob · 08-07-2008, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie k

I just need to find one for an mx5 now.......

Talk to Fabricage about them, if theres a few of you after them you'll have no problems getting it sorted out.

Rob

jamie k · 08-07-2008, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Muppet

it looks like selling my half cage shouldn't be a problem...

Cheers Bob, will give them a ring when i get some funds togeather

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30-06-2008, 12:47	#2 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,517	Probably made the right decision there guys, I don't mind having a rollcage but I know for many people it just rules them out and it would turn drifting into an elitist sport. The fact drifting competitively can be easy to get into is one of the main appeals I think.

30-06-2008, 13:01	#3 (permalink)
Jord GRD Drift Club Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 8,053	The right choice

30-06-2008, 13:23	#4 (permalink)
royal S1- F.T break! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,455	Fair enough decision. Only thing that comes to mind is where BDC is heading in the future with regards to the PRO-AM (and above if ever relevent?). Personally I'd hope that as the sport gets bigger, which touch wood its doing this year and onwards, we get more faster tracks where arguably a roll cage is necessary whether twinning or not? My whole motivation for entering is to get seat time on more tracks that I might not be able to get to very often on normal practice days. I'd like to hope that more faster places like Lydden become available as the sports popularity grows and it doesn't look like the sort of place you want to be flying towards a tyre wall without a cage? Surely hitting a tyre wall is going to hurt more than hitting another car? seeing as the cars are usually travelling in the same direction?? I'm guess I'm going over already considered ground but just thinking aloud as its nice to have goals for the next season

30-06-2008, 13:36	#5 (permalink)
m4drx doughnutter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 59	i have to agree with both points as im planning to use my BDC car daily for a short term and along with the cost it was a difficult obstacle. looking forward to the coming season.

30-06-2008, 13:48	#6 (permalink)
Crosshatch -NightWalkers- Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 1,343	Just to clairfy, Will the am's need a cage at all for next season?

30-06-2008, 14:01	#8 (permalink)
Crosshatch -NightWalkers- Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 1,343	Cheers

30-06-2008, 16:10	#9 (permalink)
drifter r32 ready to skid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: back on track Posts: 348	Good call

30-06-2008, 20:07	#10 (permalink)
rgfinn skid skid spin Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: darlo Posts: 261	can fabricage easily add the necessary bars to a half cage in order to make it a full cage? or do you have to simply replace the half with a complete full cage? just thinking i might just get the full cage anyway, on the off chance that i some day make it to pro-am! got to get to am first of course!!!

30-06-2008, 20:33	#12 (permalink)
rgfinn skid skid spin Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: darlo Posts: 261	you've convinced me niko, full cage ftw

30-06-2008, 21:36	#13 (permalink)
tech Night-walkers Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 525	Bit of a pain for us possible 2009 AM's thinking we could do it super cheap, but it's Safety first and the reputation of a growing Motor sport to think about

30-06-2008, 23:08	#14 (permalink)
jamie k -NightWalkers- Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southwales Posts: 349	I just need to find one for an mx5 now.......

06-07-2008, 22:37	#16 (permalink)
Maximus Driftus dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sunny Texas! Posts: 669	probably it's been asked before... cusco bolt-in cages - are they up to spec?

06-07-2008, 22:47	#17 (permalink)
shane spl dori master Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 345	Would THESE be up to standard?