My Ke70 and the road to 4age goodness! :D - Page 6 - Drifting forum

tetsujin · 27-02-2007, 12:26

You could use a ae86 pedal box but I have heard its not a direct swap and can be a headache to fit in.

the difference is, as you said that the ae70 pedal box has the extra bit to the right to mount the clutch master cylinder and pedal, as Ke (k series engine) uses K40/50 gearbox which is cable operated and the AE uses the T50 which is hydrolicly operated.

as the ae70 is the same car but uses a A series engine, it fits the KE70 perfect up in the dash etc when using the 4age.

I got mine from a mate in Autralia where ae70/KE70 are alot more common.

They rate putting the ae86 pedal box into a ke as the hradest thing to do in a KE swap to 4age.

Thats why I bought the ae70 box! How hard it is to fit I dont know as I just decided i cant be arsed to find out!!

BDriftMW · 27-02-2007, 12:31

thanks for the info, I will have to get on to my uncle in australia so, he's coming over during the summer, he would hardly get a peddle box through customs. haha.

Wester · 28-02-2007, 23:54

looks good.. almost the same colour as my starlet i dont think i could keep the brown though your a braver man than me.

tetsujin · 05-03-2007, 18:33

Not got much done this weekend.

Black Betty (Rob) came up for some Northern loving so that was cool to see him.

I did get a few engine bay parts ZINC plated as I am a bit of an engine bay 'WHORE' and though while I have it all out, I might aswell do a good job!!

Anyway some pics

mates mk1 escort geting painted. This needs to be ready for Germany in 4 weeks and hes got alot to still do!!

My stuff.

Stripped down the 4age of all the TVIS and other crap I dont need as going VEMS and DIS.

Messy floor!!

started to ripp the x member and stuff apart as its getting shot blasted and then painted.

next, gonna get some new copper brake lines as not happy with the rusty shit I am putting back on, so ganna make some of tem this week. and paint up the engine and fit all new gaskets etc and replace rear main oil seal too.

hopefully, can get it in this weekend coming up if I get chance from work.

jap-si · 14-03-2007, 15:49

update please

tetsujin · 14-03-2007, 16:00

update ok...

Well I just picked up a few more parts from the zinc plater's and also had the cylinder head reconed with new valve stem oil seals, re grind valves and a skim as when I took the head apart it looked like it needed it!!

also just got back from MR Toyota who bum rapped me for £40 for 10 new head bolts and alo bought a full engine gasket set to refresh all the gaskets on the 4age.

Also, painted the the X member, steering rack and the TCA so they all look fresh and nice and fitted in new poly bushes too.

Also had to take all the brake servo and new ae70 pedal ox BACK OUT as the captive bolts that hold the steering coloum in were turning and couldnt get them to tighten up proper so that was a pain in the arse.

Also had a go at making new brake lines out of copper pipe - BAD IDEA as that shit dont bend as eay as I though and wasnt happy with the finish so will just put new unions on the old lines and paint up to look std. I just thought the shinny, polished copper would look cool next to the brown.

No photos though and its just sort of been a bit lazy week doing jobs to neaten ship up really.

Will have the engine built up Thursday ready to sit back in.

Will update with lots of pics after that.

i hope to get the engine and box in all this weekend and the suspension all on too, then its just a bit of wiring with the VEMS!!!

Woo -hoo!!

tetsujin · 19-03-2007, 10:52

Well, I havent really got many photos to update this thread but I have done a few things.

I have made copper brake lines, shotblasted and painted x member and ARB supports etc, fitted new rubber boots to steering rack and rebuilt my 4age to be dropped in this week.

Its just a std build up as all the modifications to the engine are bolt on type as money needs to be spent elsewhere for the car to get done.

I also bought ANOTHER KE70 this weekend too, for spares and repairs type shit, plus the odd clip/bracket as I seem to of misplaced some!!

anyway a few pics.

Will hav more by the end of the week..

like I said, not much to see.

had the rocker covers blasted too and they are painted gold, and its actually all built up now, as i was waiting for a few things to add on.

tetsujin · 19-03-2007, 10:53

oh, and you can see, I have used a better camera than last time (mobile)

oli · 19-03-2007, 10:56

lets see pics of the rusty one! (is this the one you told me about ages ago, of some guy who lives near you?)

jap-si · 19-03-2007, 11:01

you know you are gonna sell me this car when you are done with it.

tetsujin · 19-03-2007, 11:10

That is correct Oli-san.

Its a fricking heap though.

about a year ago it was an ok car but now the wings are shot, doors arnt great, pockets are not there, and theres an 'after-market' sun roof badly fitted aswell (proper 80's conversion!!)

Just so its clears, ITS NOT FOR SALE and to be honest, it would take alot of work to make it decent, but the underneath is mint due to wax oil and the engine/interior is mint as the car has done only 44k.

cookwibble · 19-03-2007, 11:14

stop hoarding all the ke's!!!!

i want another now i have a proper car for driving in.

hmmm.....2jz into the jzx90....1jz into a ke......

tetsujin · 19-03-2007, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jap-si

you know you are gonna sell me this car when you are done with it.

just give me a couple of weeks with it when its finished dude, thats all it takes!!

This car is a real learning curve and when you get down to doing stuff you really learn alot.

this is the first engine I have stripped and rebuilt (bottom end remained std, just re sealed the sump etc) but had the head reconed and fitted new headbolts/gaskets etc.

its all very fun!!

tetsujin · 19-03-2007, 11:18

Ben, this extra KE would melt with a 1jz in it, its a twister!

cookwibble · 19-03-2007, 11:25

i think it would be quite hard to fit it in anyway!!

id really like to do a supercharged one mind...

tetsujin · 26-03-2007, 10:02

ok, another update.

I hoped to have the sucker on all fours by now, and with as much stuff as poss bolted on the car. Ssill have to put the brakes/hubs on my new struts bolted on the car aswell as the ARB and TCA. Then I can get it rolled out of my shed and have a large clean up, as its very tight for space and its hard to shit stuff with a car in the way, in fear of damage!

Plus, to top it off, I went out riding my MTB on Wed, and was 'hitting up' some local lumps and crashed and landed on my back from about 10ft, no my back is sore and wont let me get down and dirty like I want with the car, so a complete weekend seen the below results!

did a bit of shot blasting

and had a few things Zinc plated back to original....

big empty engine bay. What can I put in here....

I know, some shitty Toyota engine!!

also, I am a clean freak, and the washer/coolant bottle wasnt cleaning up to well so bought a new one from Toyota.

Also, picked up a another KE70, just like mine, except, this one, has rust!!

and some crazy seat covers!!!

the cars not great body wise, but its only done 44k.

Black Betty · 26-03-2007, 11:51

frick ME! The engine is in?!?! Must be a photoshop job! haha

tetsujin · 26-03-2007, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Betty

frick ME! The engine is in?!?! Must be a photoshop job! haha

No, its really in Rob, gearbox too!!

Its hard to think, I know, as normally, its sold and another three cars would have been bought by now but this one is gettig done!!

Front suspension on next and wiring loom and Vems coming soon!

Also, I need to ask you something. PM sent!

BillyFIVE · 26-03-2007, 12:25

Hot dang! Looking good! The gold works really well

tetsujin · 26-03-2007, 12:29

Cheers Billy.

i was gonna just go silver but as you can see, its already got alot of silver!!

Was thinking black but thats a bit boring and as its brown, briter colours like red wouldnt work, so a nice, sutle gold does the job!!

It was a real pain though sanding the tops of the letters on them as I kept catching the wides with 400 paper but its all polished out and looks good IMO. Sure, its just a rocker cover but I think gold works great with the shit poo brown!

shame you couldnt make it up at the weekend too

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27-02-2007, 12:26	#101 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	You could use a ae86 pedal box but I have heard its not a direct swap and can be a headache to fit in. the difference is, as you said that the ae70 pedal box has the extra bit to the right to mount the clutch master cylinder and pedal, as Ke (k series engine) uses K40/50 gearbox which is cable operated and the AE uses the T50 which is hydrolicly operated. as the ae70 is the same car but uses a A series engine, it fits the KE70 perfect up in the dash etc when using the 4age. I got mine from a mate in Autralia where ae70/KE70 are alot more common. They rate putting the ae86 pedal box into a ke as the hradest thing to do in a KE swap to 4age. Thats why I bought the ae70 box! How hard it is to fit I dont know as I just decided i cant be arsed to find out!!

27-02-2007, 12:31	#102 (permalink)
BDriftMW tail slider Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 121	thanks for the info, I will have to get on to my uncle in australia so, he's coming over during the summer, he would hardly get a peddle box through customs. haha.

28-02-2007, 23:54	#103 (permalink)
Wester gripper Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11	looks good.. almost the same colour as my starlet i dont think i could keep the brown though your a braver man than me.

05-03-2007, 18:33	#104 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	Not got much done this weekend. Black Betty (Rob) came up for some Northern loving so that was cool to see him. I did get a few engine bay parts ZINC plated as I am a bit of an engine bay 'WHORE' and though while I have it all out, I might aswell do a good job!! Anyway some pics mates mk1 escort geting painted. This needs to be ready for Germany in 4 weeks and hes got alot to still do!! My stuff. Stripped down the 4age of all the TVIS and other crap I dont need as going VEMS and DIS. Messy floor!! started to ripp the x member and stuff apart as its getting shot blasted and then painted. next, gonna get some new copper brake lines as not happy with the rusty shit I am putting back on, so ganna make some of tem this week. and paint up the engine and fit all new gaskets etc and replace rear main oil seal too. hopefully, can get it in this weekend coming up if I get chance from work.

14-03-2007, 15:49	#105 (permalink)
jap-si TE37 club Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somerset Posts: 5,365	update please

14-03-2007, 16:00	#106 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	update ok... Well I just picked up a few more parts from the zinc plater's and also had the cylinder head reconed with new valve stem oil seals, re grind valves and a skim as when I took the head apart it looked like it needed it!! also just got back from MR Toyota who bum rapped me for £40 for 10 new head bolts and alo bought a full engine gasket set to refresh all the gaskets on the 4age. Also, painted the the X member, steering rack and the TCA so they all look fresh and nice and fitted in new poly bushes too. Also had to take all the brake servo and new ae70 pedal ox BACK OUT as the captive bolts that hold the steering coloum in were turning and couldnt get them to tighten up proper so that was a pain in the arse. Also had a go at making new brake lines out of copper pipe - BAD IDEA as that shit dont bend as eay as I though and wasnt happy with the finish so will just put new unions on the old lines and paint up to look std. I just thought the shinny, polished copper would look cool next to the brown. No photos though and its just sort of been a bit lazy week doing jobs to neaten ship up really. Will have the engine built up Thursday ready to sit back in. Will update with lots of pics after that. i hope to get the engine and box in all this weekend and the suspension all on too, then its just a bit of wiring with the VEMS!!! Woo -hoo!!

19-03-2007, 10:52	#107 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	Well, I havent really got many photos to update this thread but I have done a few things. I have made copper brake lines, shotblasted and painted x member and ARB supports etc, fitted new rubber boots to steering rack and rebuilt my 4age to be dropped in this week. Its just a std build up as all the modifications to the engine are bolt on type as money needs to be spent elsewhere for the car to get done. I also bought ANOTHER KE70 this weekend too, for spares and repairs type shit, plus the odd clip/bracket as I seem to of misplaced some!! anyway a few pics. Will hav more by the end of the week.. like I said, not much to see. had the rocker covers blasted too and they are painted gold, and its actually all built up now, as i was waiting for a few things to add on.

19-03-2007, 10:53	#108 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	oh, and you can see, I have used a better camera than last time (mobile)

19-03-2007, 10:56	#109 (permalink)
oli -nightspirit- Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: swindon Posts: 4,956	lets see pics of the rusty one! (is this the one you told me about ages ago, of some guy who lives near you?)

19-03-2007, 11:01	#110 (permalink)
jap-si TE37 club Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somerset Posts: 5,365	you know you are gonna sell me this car when you are done with it.

19-03-2007, 11:10	#111 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	That is correct Oli-san. Its a fricking heap though. about a year ago it was an ok car but now the wings are shot, doors arnt great, pockets are not there, and theres an 'after-market' sun roof badly fitted aswell (proper 80's conversion!!) Just so its clears, ITS NOT FOR SALE and to be honest, it would take alot of work to make it decent, but the underneath is mint due to wax oil and the engine/interior is mint as the car has done only 44k.

19-03-2007, 11:14	#112 (permalink)
cookwibble dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,541	stop hoarding all the ke's!!!! i want another now i have a proper car for driving in. hmmm.....2jz into the jzx90....1jz into a ke......

19-03-2007, 11:18	#114 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	Ben, this extra KE would melt with a 1jz in it, its a twister!

19-03-2007, 11:25	#115 (permalink)
cookwibble dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,541	i think it would be quite hard to fit it in anyway!! id really like to do a supercharged one mind...

26-03-2007, 10:02	#116 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	ok, another update. I hoped to have the sucker on all fours by now, and with as much stuff as poss bolted on the car. Ssill have to put the brakes/hubs on my new struts bolted on the car aswell as the ARB and TCA. Then I can get it rolled out of my shed and have a large clean up, as its very tight for space and its hard to shit stuff with a car in the way, in fear of damage! Plus, to top it off, I went out riding my MTB on Wed, and was 'hitting up' some local lumps and crashed and landed on my back from about 10ft, no my back is sore and wont let me get down and dirty like I want with the car, so a complete weekend seen the below results! did a bit of shot blasting and had a few things Zinc plated back to original.... big empty engine bay. What can I put in here.... I know, some shitty Toyota engine!! also, I am a clean freak, and the washer/coolant bottle wasnt cleaning up to well so bought a new one from Toyota. Also, picked up a another KE70, just like mine, except, this one, has rust!! and some crazy seat covers!!! the cars not great body wise, but its only done 44k.

26-03-2007, 11:51	#117 (permalink)
Black Betty Bamalam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 3,404	frick ME! The engine is in?!?! Must be a photoshop job! haha

26-03-2007, 12:25	#119 (permalink)
BillyFIVE no disassemble Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norwich. I just live here, I ain't no local! Posts: 1,032	Hot dang! Looking good! The gold works really well

26-03-2007, 12:29	#120 (permalink)
tetsujin Johnny 5 ALIVE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,245	Cheers Billy. i was gonna just go silver but as you can see, its already got alot of silver!! Was thinking black but thats a bit boring and as its brown, briter colours like red wouldnt work, so a nice, sutle gold does the job!! It was a real pain though sanding the tops of the letters on them as I kept catching the wides with 400 paper but its all polished out and looks good IMO. Sure, its just a rocker cover but I think gold works great with the shit poo brown! shame you couldnt make it up at the weekend too