My RB26 powered JZX81 Chaser - Page 12 - Drifting forum

Will_DW · 28-09-2007, 14:54

Ha quality, sig material.. lol..

Anyways, cant wait to see this project get started

Do-A-Skid · 28-09-2007, 14:56

yea will be a good one.

jealous is the word

Stavros · 29-09-2007, 19:04

No pics today as I cant be fricked, but more progress.

Side repeaters fitted were BMW ones, but no wires going to them for some reason, and no bulbs or buld holder either.

So today went and stole some from the scrapyard, made a new loom for em, plugged em in where they originally went, and err, nothing.

So went down and robbed a set from a scrap celica, and plugged them in, and they work!

frick knows why BMW ones dont tho.

Thing is, the indicators are still flashing fast though, even though all 6 indicators are now flashing? Not MEGA fast, but faster than they should.
Pressing the hazard switch makes them all flash slower.

Any ideas?

Hammond · 29-09-2007, 19:07

Somekind of resistor or relay? Mike's Cefiro indicators flash pretty fast too...

chip-3door · 29-09-2007, 19:07

sounds like they are the wrong wattage of bulb, too fast normally means the resistance is too high, maybe they run some weird bulbs in them on the JDM ones? daft as it sounds try wiring an extra bulb in parrelel just to see if it slows it down, if it does then you just need to put some higher wattage bulbs in as a quick fix.

Stavros · 29-09-2007, 19:22

Thing is tho mate, why would they go to normal speed when hazard switch is pressed if that was the case?

Thought im FAR from an electrics expert!

I was thinking of adding repeaters to the front bumper (ie where they should be) as the side repeaters have been added as a mod in replacment for the bumper ones, and the normal (ie next to the headlight) front indicators can hardly be seen from front on!

garethr · 29-09-2007, 20:06

Could the rear lights have been changed? Are there JZX81s with different numbers of indicator bulbs?

For example, early 30 series Soarers have 3 bulbs each side, then they changed to 2, so if you swap the rear lights you also have to swap flasher units or, depending on whether you have increased or reduced the number of bulbs, remove bulbs or add resistors.

The hazard flasher unit may work differently because it doesn't need to flash at a different rate as a warning that a bulb has failed.

japaneasy · 29-09-2007, 20:14

Loving the car dude cant wait to see the thing in action.

Jak · 29-09-2007, 21:10

Bright pink plastic spinner wheel trims on banded steelies ftw dude!!

gaz_moose · 30-09-2007, 11:15

do the lights on the dash flash when you indicate/press the hazard button? could also have the wrong flasher relay fitted. but check the wattage of the bulbs should be 5w i think.

Stavros · 02-10-2007, 19:00

Yes mate, lights on the dash work

Right, small update today...

Went n got 2 legal rear tyres fitted that I had spare. Needs some legal fronts now too

Rear wheels are 9x17 ET38, and sit slightly proud of the rear arches with the 225s giving just enough stretch to keep the tread under the arches.
Its official, stock JZX81 rear arches are GAY.

Fitted some front indicators in the bumper today, hopefully to make the flasher speed go down to normal.
Went to the scrappy and aquired a pair of nice looking Rover 620 side repeaters for a princely sum of 1 pound, fitted them, and...
No change, still flash too fast. Tho are normal when press hazard button.
frick it, should still pass MOT.

Headlights are strange too, side lights are normal, main beam is normal, put on full beam and main beam changes colour (maybe brighter too, hard to tell).
BUT the inner most lights do nothing regardless, anyone (Bon?) know when they are meant to come on?

And, err, thats it really.

Oh, and do the speedo NEED to read in Mph for the MOT? As that aint ever gonna happen really, the frickers got a digi dash... (unless anyone knows if you can convert it to MPH by pressing some buttons? You can on Vaux digi dashes.)

theholty · 02-10-2007, 19:24

Nah, I've put 5 different cars through MOT's over te years that read in kms with no trouble

Alex B · 02-10-2007, 20:25

The inner lights are driving/fog lights, should work off a twist switch on the light stalk.

No need for kph for an MOT.

Alex B

Stavros · 02-10-2007, 20:36

Alex- 1st twist do the outer ones, 2nd twist do the main middle ones, 3rd twist is auto.
Pushing or pulling the stalk just makes the main middle ones go brighter it seems.

Cool, KPH its staying then

Alex B · 02-10-2007, 20:46

Is there not a separate twisty bit further along the stalk, like some modern cars, (saxos for example)?

They may not have been wired up as it's not the original front end.

Alex B

Stavros · 02-10-2007, 20:48

Oh, dunno, never looked/noticed, could have a point though.
They had bulbs in em, and were plugged in, but aside from that, dunno.
Ill check 2moz.

**Bon Bon** · 03-10-2007, 09:40

Yeah it's a twist stalk further down for the fogs, but since yours is Mk II with chaser front end it might not be wired up right, but I don't see any reason why not.

Indicators are bizarre, have you tried changing the bulbs in all the lights for new ones, the proper big indicator bulbs and the right ones for the side lights? you should have rears, front headlight sidelight things, and proper ones in the front bumper, and it'll work fine?

Barky · 03-10-2007, 09:46

One thing to try to increase load on flasher unit, get a wire and connect the both the left and right side indicators together (only the positive side needs connecting together). When you now indicate either left or right from the stalk they will all come on, see if this makes a difference to the speed.

MR-steveo · 04-10-2007, 20:14

make sure all the bulbs are same wattage as i know on bikes it makes them flash fast

jap-si · 04-10-2007, 20:17

are any of them brighter than any others? possible bad earth somewhere?

02-10-2007, 19:00	#231 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,180	Yes mate, lights on the dash work Right, small update today... Went n got 2 legal rear tyres fitted that I had spare. Needs some legal fronts now too Rear wheels are 9x17 ET38, and sit slightly proud of the rear arches with the 225s giving just enough stretch to keep the tread under the arches. Its official, stock JZX81 rear arches are GAY. Fitted some front indicators in the bumper today, hopefully to make the flasher speed go down to normal. Went to the scrappy and aquired a pair of nice looking Rover 620 side repeaters for a princely sum of 1 pound, fitted them, and... No change, still flash too fast. Tho are normal when press hazard button. frick it, should still pass MOT. Headlights are strange too, side lights are normal, main beam is normal, put on full beam and main beam changes colour (maybe brighter too, hard to tell). BUT the inner most lights do nothing regardless, anyone (Bon?) know when they are meant to come on? And, err, thats it really. Oh, and do the speedo NEED to read in Mph for the MOT? As that aint ever gonna happen really, the frickers got a digi dash... (unless anyone knows if you can convert it to MPH by pressing some buttons? You can on Vaux digi dashes.) Last edited by Stavros : 02-10-2007 at 20:37.

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28-09-2007, 14:54	#221 (permalink)
Will_DW dorifto kingu! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northampton Posts: 823	Ha quality, sig material.. lol.. Anyways, cant wait to see this project get started

28-09-2007, 14:56	#222 (permalink)
Do-A-Skid LaBamba Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: halesowen Posts: 315	yea will be a good one. jealous is the word

29-09-2007, 19:04	#223 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,180	No pics today as I cant be fricked, but more progress. Side repeaters fitted were BMW ones, but no wires going to them for some reason, and no bulbs or buld holder either. So today went and stole some from the scrapyard, made a new loom for em, plugged em in where they originally went, and err, nothing. So went down and robbed a set from a scrap celica, and plugged them in, and they work! frick knows why BMW ones dont tho. Thing is, the indicators are still flashing fast though, even though all 6 indicators are now flashing? Not MEGA fast, but faster than they should. Pressing the hazard switch makes them all flash slower. Any ideas?

29-09-2007, 19:07	#224 (permalink)
Hammond cantskid4shit Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canterbury Posts: 4,384	Somekind of resistor or relay? Mike's Cefiro indicators flash pretty fast too...

29-09-2007, 19:07	#225 (permalink)
chip-3door dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 900	sounds like they are the wrong wattage of bulb, too fast normally means the resistance is too high, maybe they run some weird bulbs in them on the JDM ones? daft as it sounds try wiring an extra bulb in parrelel just to see if it slows it down, if it does then you just need to put some higher wattage bulbs in as a quick fix.

29-09-2007, 19:22	#226 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,180	Thing is tho mate, why would they go to normal speed when hazard switch is pressed if that was the case? Thought im FAR from an electrics expert! I was thinking of adding repeaters to the front bumper (ie where they should be) as the side repeaters have been added as a mod in replacment for the bumper ones, and the normal (ie next to the headlight) front indicators can hardly be seen from front on!

29-09-2007, 20:06	#227 (permalink)
garethr tail slider Join Date: May 2007 Location: BRISTOL Posts: 144	Could the rear lights have been changed? Are there JZX81s with different numbers of indicator bulbs? For example, early 30 series Soarers have 3 bulbs each side, then they changed to 2, so if you swap the rear lights you also have to swap flasher units or, depending on whether you have increased or reduced the number of bulbs, remove bulbs or add resistors. The hazard flasher unit may work differently because it doesn't need to flash at a different rate as a warning that a bulb has failed.

29-09-2007, 20:14	#228 (permalink)
japaneasy spl dori master Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: holworthy devon Posts: 253	Loving the car dude cant wait to see the thing in action.

29-09-2007, 21:10	#229 (permalink)
Jak Mighty Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Winsford, Cheshire Posts: 331	Bright pink plastic spinner wheel trims on banded steelies ftw dude!!

30-09-2007, 11:15	#230 (permalink)
gaz_moose dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 2,841	do the lights on the dash flash when you indicate/press the hazard button? could also have the wrong flasher relay fitted. but check the wattage of the bulbs should be 5w i think.

02-10-2007, 19:24	#232 (permalink)
theholty Lifestyler! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 'udders field Posts: 973	Nah, I've put 5 different cars through MOT's over te years that read in kms with no trouble

02-10-2007, 20:25	#233 (permalink)
Alex B dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,588	The inner lights are driving/fog lights, should work off a twist switch on the light stalk. No need for kph for an MOT. Alex B

02-10-2007, 20:36	#234 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,180	Alex- 1st twist do the outer ones, 2nd twist do the main middle ones, 3rd twist is auto. Pushing or pulling the stalk just makes the main middle ones go brighter it seems. Cool, KPH its staying then

02-10-2007, 20:46	#235 (permalink)
Alex B dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,588	Is there not a separate twisty bit further along the stalk, like some modern cars, (saxos for example)? They may not have been wired up as it's not the original front end. Alex B

02-10-2007, 20:48	#236 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,180	Oh, dunno, never looked/noticed, could have a point though. They had bulbs in em, and were plugged in, but aside from that, dunno. Ill check 2moz.

03-10-2007, 09:40	#237 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 4,731	Yeah it's a twist stalk further down for the fogs, but since yours is Mk II with chaser front end it might not be wired up right, but I don't see any reason why not. Indicators are bizarre, have you tried changing the bulbs in all the lights for new ones, the proper big indicator bulbs and the right ones for the side lights? you should have rears, front headlight sidelight things, and proper ones in the front bumper, and it'll work fine?

03-10-2007, 09:46	#238 (permalink)
Barky Team Triad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 2,028	One thing to try to increase load on flasher unit, get a wire and connect the both the left and right side indicators together (only the positive side needs connecting together). When you now indicate either left or right from the stalk they will all come on, see if this makes a difference to the speed.

04-10-2007, 20:14	#239 (permalink)
MR-steveo TNS MAN CHILD Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: mk Posts: 2,113	make sure all the bulbs are same wattage as i know on bikes it makes them flash fast

04-10-2007, 20:17	#240 (permalink)
jap-si from K1 to P1 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somerset Posts: 4,944	are any of them brighter than any others? possible bad earth somewhere?