My RB26 powered JZX81 Chaser - Page 45 - Drifting forum

sammysideways · 21-03-2008, 20:14

doing it from memory but looks like a 81 rear end to me fella, i may well be wrong though

turbo haus touge · 22-03-2008, 12:46

well stav that looks pretty bob on the same as mine so we either both hav jzx 100 back ends or its a 81 back end lol

Stavros · 22-03-2008, 12:55

Cool man, shall we just believe Ricks lies and pretend we all got 100 rear ends? lol.

Ive no idea what the difference is anyhow, and seeing as the rear end in the pics is clearly a shithot multilink setup anyhow, who gives a frick, its mint

Stavros · 22-03-2008, 18:08

for fricks sake...

anyone localish got a spare wheel nut that fits with Rotas? The ones the car came with are like 20.5mm socket and are slightly too thick to use.

i got my mate to do ONE wheel up, and i went for a drive and found they were loose as frick and one is cross threaded

dont think its mashed the stud, just the nut, but if i cant find another stud i cant use the car 2moro and monday, which is what ive been looking forward to

NIcad7 · 22-03-2008, 18:22

Lol, i let my mate put on a wheel for me once, he put the nuts on backwards so the tapered end was facing outwards! I told him to do up em with the torque wrench, while is was gone, i came back, he looked proper confused, told me the wheel was breaking.....

.....the flat face of the nut was ripping the tapered alloy out! I wasnt happy

I only let one of my mates help with the car nowdays, some people just dont have a clue haha

Kevin@Lockley-Engineering · 22-03-2008, 18:24

I give up with trying to use standard nuts on the rota's. They were impossible to get a socket over that wasnt a hand wrench job which like yours didnt stay tight for long and scratched the paint work to shit!

Internal drive nuts mate. Anything else is just a ball ache with GTR's.

Stavros · 22-03-2008, 18:31

I take it its too dodgy to drive it with 4?

Worst thing is he is an ex-RAF mechanic, but is for ever rounding shit off etc! I think as he used to everything being massive and super strong, he takes no care

Kev- With the nuts supplied and a 19mm socket its not too bad, but anything else is way too big.
frick knows where im gonna get another nut tomorro tho, i wanna drive the fricking car!

Guess im jus gonna have to get sooo destroyed tonight im in no fit state to drive until its time to go out again tomorrow night, and by then its too late.
Otherwise im gonna be well fricked off I cant use it

1st time driving it with the moody Jap plates too, frick me it gets some attention, in the petrol station alone i had 3 different sets of people ask about the car, lol.

NIcad7 · 22-03-2008, 18:39

I just went to an alloy wheel place, they gave me a few for free,

19mm 1.5mm thread

Stavros · 22-03-2008, 18:41

Trouble is mate, Easter Sunday tomorro innit, so no fricker will be open

But I wanted to make the most of the quietish roads...

howler · 22-03-2008, 18:51

If you are really depserate I have some internal drive nuts, I'm in Somerset though

Dori Mat · 22-03-2008, 21:45

stav, your just too JDM tyte

harajuku ? isn't that them girls that mad bint stefani goes on about ?

Cressyslider · 23-03-2008, 01:50

Definately an X80 rear end.
If it started life out with a 1j in it, the axles will be slightly thicker than a gx81 or mx83.
The disks should also be ventilated and larger than my non ventilated tea cup plates.
It baffles me as to why toyota thought they needed thicker axles, they're stupid thick on mx83s anyway!

I cant believe how standard your rear end is, even the rear bar is standard...they're a great design until you get really low...it is probably actually beneficial to run our cars at a higher ride height than we do...though it wouldnt be JDM tyte y0.

If you think it transitions awesome now mate, put a bigger rear bar in. Tezuka used to run something like a 24mm largus on the rear! I think they might have been hollow though. A guy i know in oz bought a beautiful kids heart mark2 that was owned by a mate of tez and was setup by tez...he recons that in the 150+km/h entries into turn 1 at mallala the first time driving the car, it felt even more controllable than an s13, you could just keep dialling in the steering and it was solid as a rock. He put all this down to the rediculous sized bars.

Im planning on recessing the cradle into the body at least 50mm to get the geometry closer to standard ride height, should be fun....

Pic of rear end after i made my solid alloy mounts and my adj arms...still need to make the 'traction arms'...can pull positive camber heh

Stavros · 23-03-2008, 19:13

Matt- Yeah thats the place, its like clolthes shopping heaven there, tho i liked it just as much for the thousands of scantily clad birds, which were even more widespread than the rest of Tokyo, lol.

Cressy- Deffo JZX originally according to the chassis number

There a company in Oz that makes thicker ARBs for 81s i think? Are arms available or need to get em custom made like yours?
Your arms look fantastic

iamben · 23-03-2008, 19:39

The more i look at this thread Stav the more i like the chaser.

any chance of a ride in it at a DWYB day?

Cressyslider · 23-03-2008, 22:24

Stav - KMAC and whiteline in oz both make bars. on the Toyota Cressida Forums - Powered by vBulletin they were organising a group buy from kmac which turned into an abortion i think lol. There's probably someone on there who can point you in the right direction.
They'll make any thickness bar you like if you can get around the bs kmac cause you! Mine is the thickest off the shelf one they do and ive snapped 2 of those plastic sway links by not lowering the car down squarely after having it jacked up. If you're careful it wont happen. Any thicker than mine (18 or 20mm or something) and you'll want to strengthen the mount on the control arm, as well as look towards a steel sway link. There would be something out there to do the job.

Just a tip for your front bar. I fitted a 28 or 30mm kmac bar to the front which is much much stiffer than stock. Using the standard links that bolt between the bar and the top of the strut, (which im told makes for a more responsive bar) when heading towards full lock, this link would twist as the steering turned, which would load up the sway bar and actually pull the car onto full lock and hold it there!! I struggled with the car like this for about 2 years simply because i didnt figure out why the steering wouldnt self centre. I even had one of the top 10 drifters in australia unable to do controlled donuts in the car haha...made me feel good at least because i had managed to drive it!
Watch this vid, as i go into the second right hander i have to forcefully flick the wheel, it wont do it itself. (this was years ago btw...i have improved

)
MySpaceTV Videos: Troy in his cressida @ winton raceway by DRIFTJUNKIE PRODUCTIONS

Now with the sway pickup off the lower control arm, along with 11deg of castor its much easier.

As for adjustable arms, keep an eye on yahoo jp auctions and look at T3 in the states, they were talking about it. I would love to make all diehard X80 people arms and things but 1)They're not my machines to make money from and 2)I make enough parts at work and need a break when i come home lol

Keep it fast, wide and low

Stavros · 24-03-2008, 00:09

Brilliant info mate, really appreciate it as there frick all info here!

I didnt know Whiteline did any, that may be good news as I know the guys at Whiteline UK.

Would DEFFO be good to stiffen the car with the ARBs are the Bilsteins on it arnt that hard and are non-adjustable, so thats a good other option.

At mo the cars got great self centering, tho again the front looks stock to me, unless the arms have been cut n welded for more castor, and wouldnt want to lose that!

As an alternative to longer lower arms, i think i might fit slightly bigger front spacers and run more camber, as im still having the inner arch clearance probs and its the chassis rail in the way now, so im fricked there regardless of how much i hammer!

Its all learning, but its all good fun

turbo haus touge · 24-03-2008, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Cressyslider

Stav - KMAC and whiteline in oz both make bars. on the Toyota Cressida Forums - Powered by vBulletin they were organising a group buy from kmac which turned into an abortion i think lol. There's probably someone on there who can point you in the right direction.
They'll make any thickness bar you like if you can get around the bs kmac cause you! Mine is the thickest off the shelf one they do and ive snapped 2 of those plastic sway links by not lowering the car down squarely after having it jacked up. If you're careful it wont happen. Any thicker than mine (18 or 20mm or something) and you'll want to strengthen the mount on the control arm, as well as look towards a steel sway link. There would be something out there to do the job.

Just a tip for your front bar. I fitted a 28 or 30mm kmac bar to the front which is much much stiffer than stock. Using the standard links that bolt between the bar and the top of the strut, (which im told makes for a more responsive bar) when heading towards full lock, this link would twist as the steering turned, which would load up the sway bar and actually pull the car onto full lock and hold it there!! I struggled with the car like this for about 2 years simply because i didnt figure out why the steering wouldnt self centre. I even had one of the top 10 drifters in australia unable to do controlled donuts in the car haha...made me feel good at least because i had managed to drive it!
Watch this vid, as i go into the second right hander i have to forcefully flick the wheel, it wont do it itself. (this was years ago btw...i have improved

)
MySpaceTV Videos: Troy in his cressida @ winton raceway by DRIFTJUNKIE PRODUCTIONS

Now with the sway pickup off the lower control arm, along with 11deg of castor its much easier.

As for adjustable arms, keep an eye on yahoo jp auctions and look at T3 in the states, they were talking about it. I would love to make all diehard X80 people arms and things but 1)They're not my machines to make money from and 2)I make enough parts at work and need a break when i come home lol

Keep it fast, wide and low

yea man thats some top notch info! my rear roll bar link has snapped on mine and im pretty sure my steering is doin a similar thing to wot yours was by the sound of it, it doesnt seem t self centre very nicely, deffo wann get my self sum big anti roll bars, maybe we could order at the same time stav?

Stavros · 25-03-2008, 15:53

Just so I dont do something retarded...

MX83 Cressida suspension parts all fit JZX81s, right? Ie uprated ARBs, adjustable arms, etc etc?

(MX83 Cressidas are even less heard of over here than JZX81s, so forgive my stupidness...)

**Bon Bon** · 25-03-2008, 16:41

Yep!!

matt · 25-03-2008, 16:57

thats right stav, they're both x8's so share the dirty bits. theres some changes between the years but almost everything is interchangeable.

x7's are even harder to find bits for!

23-03-2008, 22:24	#895 (permalink)
Cressyslider gripper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	Stav - KMAC and whiteline in oz both make bars. on the Toyota Cressida Forums - Powered by vBulletin they were organising a group buy from kmac which turned into an abortion i think lol. There's probably someone on there who can point you in the right direction. They'll make any thickness bar you like if you can get around the bs kmac cause you! Mine is the thickest off the shelf one they do and ive snapped 2 of those plastic sway links by not lowering the car down squarely after having it jacked up. If you're careful it wont happen. Any thicker than mine (18 or 20mm or something) and you'll want to strengthen the mount on the control arm, as well as look towards a steel sway link. There would be something out there to do the job. Just a tip for your front bar. I fitted a 28 or 30mm kmac bar to the front which is much much stiffer than stock. Using the standard links that bolt between the bar and the top of the strut, (which im told makes for a more responsive bar) when heading towards full lock, this link would twist as the steering turned, which would load up the sway bar and actually pull the car onto full lock and hold it there!! I struggled with the car like this for about 2 years simply because i didnt figure out why the steering wouldnt self centre. I even had one of the top 10 drifters in australia unable to do controlled donuts in the car haha...made me feel good at least because i had managed to drive it! Watch this vid, as i go into the second right hander i have to forcefully flick the wheel, it wont do it itself. (this was years ago btw...i have improved ) MySpaceTV Videos: Troy in his cressida @ winton raceway by DRIFTJUNKIE PRODUCTIONS Now with the sway pickup off the lower control arm, along with 11deg of castor its much easier. As for adjustable arms, keep an eye on yahoo jp auctions and look at T3 in the states, they were talking about it. I would love to make all diehard X80 people arms and things but 1)They're not my machines to make money from and 2)I make enough parts at work and need a break when i come home lol Keep it fast, wide and low Last edited by Cressyslider : 23-03-2008 at 22:27.

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21-03-2008, 20:14	#881 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,472	doing it from memory but looks like a 81 rear end to me fella, i may well be wrong though

22-03-2008, 12:46	#882 (permalink)
turbo haus touge me bdc 2009! Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,403	well stav that looks pretty bob on the same as mine so we either both hav jzx 100 back ends or its a 81 back end lol

22-03-2008, 12:55	#883 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	Cool man, shall we just believe Ricks lies and pretend we all got 100 rear ends? lol. Ive no idea what the difference is anyhow, and seeing as the rear end in the pics is clearly a shithot multilink setup anyhow, who gives a frick, its mint

22-03-2008, 18:08	#884 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	for fricks sake... anyone localish got a spare wheel nut that fits with Rotas? The ones the car came with are like 20.5mm socket and are slightly too thick to use. i got my mate to do ONE wheel up, and i went for a drive and found they were loose as frick and one is cross threaded dont think its mashed the stud, just the nut, but if i cant find another stud i cant use the car 2moro and monday, which is what ive been looking forward to

22-03-2008, 18:22	#885 (permalink)
NIcad7 DRIFT*DIVISION Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orpington, Kent and Elmpt, Germany Posts: 899	Lol, i let my mate put on a wheel for me once, he put the nuts on backwards so the tapered end was facing outwards! I told him to do up em with the torque wrench, while is was gone, i came back, he looked proper confused, told me the wheel was breaking..... .....the flat face of the nut was ripping the tapered alloy out! I wasnt happy I only let one of my mates help with the car nowdays, some people just dont have a clue haha

22-03-2008, 18:24	#886 (permalink)
Kevin@Lockley-Engineering tail slider Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside Posts: 139	I give up with trying to use standard nuts on the rota's. They were impossible to get a socket over that wasnt a hand wrench job which like yours didnt stay tight for long and scratched the paint work to shit! Internal drive nuts mate. Anything else is just a ball ache with GTR's.

22-03-2008, 18:31	#887 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	I take it its too dodgy to drive it with 4? Worst thing is he is an ex-RAF mechanic, but is for ever rounding shit off etc! I think as he used to everything being massive and super strong, he takes no care Kev- With the nuts supplied and a 19mm socket its not too bad, but anything else is way too big. frick knows where im gonna get another nut tomorro tho, i wanna drive the fricking car! Guess im jus gonna have to get sooo destroyed tonight im in no fit state to drive until its time to go out again tomorrow night, and by then its too late. Otherwise im gonna be well fricked off I cant use it 1st time driving it with the moody Jap plates too, frick me it gets some attention, in the petrol station alone i had 3 different sets of people ask about the car, lol.

22-03-2008, 18:39	#888 (permalink)
NIcad7 DRIFT*DIVISION Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orpington, Kent and Elmpt, Germany Posts: 899	I just went to an alloy wheel place, they gave me a few for free, 19mm 1.5mm thread

22-03-2008, 18:41	#889 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	Trouble is mate, Easter Sunday tomorro innit, so no fricker will be open But I wanted to make the most of the quietish roads...

22-03-2008, 18:51	#890 (permalink)
howler dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 861	If you are really depserate I have some internal drive nuts, I'm in Somerset though

22-03-2008, 21:45	#891 (permalink)
Dori Mat UberLifestyler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: oxfordshire Posts: 3,785	stav, your just too JDM tyte harajuku ? isn't that them girls that mad bint stefani goes on about ?

23-03-2008, 01:50	#892 (permalink)
Cressyslider gripper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	Definately an X80 rear end. If it started life out with a 1j in it, the axles will be slightly thicker than a gx81 or mx83. The disks should also be ventilated and larger than my non ventilated tea cup plates. It baffles me as to why toyota thought they needed thicker axles, they're stupid thick on mx83s anyway! I cant believe how standard your rear end is, even the rear bar is standard...they're a great design until you get really low...it is probably actually beneficial to run our cars at a higher ride height than we do...though it wouldnt be JDM tyte y0. If you think it transitions awesome now mate, put a bigger rear bar in. Tezuka used to run something like a 24mm largus on the rear! I think they might have been hollow though. A guy i know in oz bought a beautiful kids heart mark2 that was owned by a mate of tez and was setup by tez...he recons that in the 150+km/h entries into turn 1 at mallala the first time driving the car, it felt even more controllable than an s13, you could just keep dialling in the steering and it was solid as a rock. He put all this down to the rediculous sized bars. Im planning on recessing the cradle into the body at least 50mm to get the geometry closer to standard ride height, should be fun.... Pic of rear end after i made my solid alloy mounts and my adj arms...still need to make the 'traction arms'...can pull positive camber heh

23-03-2008, 19:13	#893 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	Matt- Yeah thats the place, its like clolthes shopping heaven there, tho i liked it just as much for the thousands of scantily clad birds, which were even more widespread than the rest of Tokyo, lol. Cressy- Deffo JZX originally according to the chassis number There a company in Oz that makes thicker ARBs for 81s i think? Are arms available or need to get em custom made like yours? Your arms look fantastic

23-03-2008, 19:39	#894 (permalink)
iamben Await Rescue Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 847	The more i look at this thread Stav the more i like the chaser. any chance of a ride in it at a DWYB day?

24-03-2008, 00:09	#896 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	Brilliant info mate, really appreciate it as there frick all info here! I didnt know Whiteline did any, that may be good news as I know the guys at Whiteline UK. Would DEFFO be good to stiffen the car with the ARBs are the Bilsteins on it arnt that hard and are non-adjustable, so thats a good other option. At mo the cars got great self centering, tho again the front looks stock to me, unless the arms have been cut n welded for more castor, and wouldnt want to lose that! As an alternative to longer lower arms, i think i might fit slightly bigger front spacers and run more camber, as im still having the inner arch clearance probs and its the chassis rail in the way now, so im fricked there regardless of how much i hammer! Its all learning, but its all good fun

25-03-2008, 15:53	#898 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,721	Just so I dont do something retarded... MX83 Cressida suspension parts all fit JZX81s, right? Ie uprated ARBs, adjustable arms, etc etc? (MX83 Cressidas are even less heard of over here than JZX81s, so forgive my stupidness...)

25-03-2008, 16:41	#899 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,152	Yep!!

25-03-2008, 16:57	#900 (permalink)
matt -NIGHTSPIRIT FAMILY- Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,857	thats right stav, they're both x8's so share the dirty bits. theres some changes between the years but almost everything is interchangeable. x7's are even harder to find bits for!