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sammysideways · 12-11-2007, 22:13

cant you buy some plates to go onto the diff mounting points to stop it ripping the floor?swear ive seen them somewhere

DoriDave · 13-11-2007, 00:08

Just scuffed the floor, nothing major. Just bit of a ballache taking the diff out to remove sheared bolts. I can always get some plates made up at work anywho.

ren_juanjo · 13-11-2007, 00:45

you can indeed buy the plates from BMW. i would advise it sooner rather than later as my diff ripped out the captive nuts from the floorpan, and about two inches all around it as well

**Bon Bon** · 13-11-2007, 10:16

That's not the diff mounts, that's the subframe mounts.

Easy repair even when they break, it's just a matter of the hassle of the car being out of action when it wants to be instead of when you want it to be.

DoriDave · 14-11-2007, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stavros

"check the handbrake cable, one side was attacked with an angle grinder so only one side works"

Got a nice new cable today, it's only in one part though, I thought by Stav's post that they go to each rear brake??? Haven't been under it to have a look yet.

big_wig_074 · 15-11-2007, 17:59

this is my old car,yeah theres 2 handbrake cables,one for each rear hub.the right one should be there,left one is cut.

cossie1 · 15-11-2007, 18:01

big wig above bought it last yr for about £1800 I think. I bought it off him for £300 as he just wanted it out the way and I needed a runabout till I found what I was looking for.

I sold it a couple of weeks later to someone from essex for £850

It had full cream leather, 18" lenso Mesh alloys and was sat on it's arse.

There was no scorpion back box on it, was a std box with 2 scorpion DTM tips welded to it.

Looks like it's changed hands a couple of times since I sold it back in july.

DoriDave · 17-11-2007, 17:33

Managed to find a matching door card on ebay. Will have a nosey at the cables tomorrow. Bit miffed that eurocarparts or GSF parts didn't list the seperate cables. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

DoriDave · 01-12-2007, 17:32

Little update, got the door card in, not essential drifty usage, but does tidy it up no end.

Got the new handbrake cable joined up at the handle end, removed the rear wheel and discovered two of the wheel bolts are sheared, check the other rims and i've got four of the buggers missing!!!

Didn't get as much planned as I would have liked because of arsey alarm fitters and a fricked immobiliser on the Skyline. Will have another crack at the Beemer tomorrow. Bloody things been nothing but sheared bolts!!!

Mike@TDSW · 02-12-2007, 23:57

That was a steal, it would of made a bloody good spares car for mine.

Andy.w · 03-12-2007, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ren_juanjo

you can indeed buy the plates from BMW. i would advise it sooner rather than later as my diff ripped out the captive nuts from the floorpan, and about two inches all around it as well

just brought an E36 2.5 coupe, love this thread. Your gonna have some fun in this dude.

Where can i buy the plates from and are they simple to fit as you guys talking about ripping the floor out scares me and i dont quite understand how it does this

DoriDave · 03-12-2007, 21:41

Andy, from what I can make out on mine, the front diff mount bolt sheared and when it has drive going through it, it kicks the front of the diff up towards the floor. Where the prop and diff connect (4 bolts) this part is basically trying to cut through the floor! I might just get some sheet metal from work and bolt a piece in for now.

Two_Sheds · 03-12-2007, 21:53

Theres 4 studs/bolts that hold the whole rear subframe/diff carrier to the floor of the car, and in early cars they can be ripped out, taking the floor with it - leading to a costly repair bill or scrapping of the shell. BMW themselves do the 4 reinforcement plates for about 65 quid, and its quite a big job, as it requires dropping the rear subframe off and getting the fuel tank out. Drop me a PM and I can send you the part numbers and a link to a thread on e36coupe.co.uk that shows what needs doing, and I might be able to get some pics of mine as its up on the ramps at Chizfab at the moment.

DoriDave · 03-12-2007, 22:08

Schweet two sheds, can you post the part numbers please dude?

Two_Sheds · 06-12-2007, 14:39

Theres a guide as to whats involved here:

www.e36coupe.com :: Log in

and anoher link to them:

Turner Motorsport - Item# 4111225649 - E36 Rear Subframe/Chassis Reinforcement Kit - E36

And part numbers are:

41.00.2.256.495
41.00.2.256.496
41.11.2.256.497
41.11.2.256.498

They're all designated as "spacer rings", you might want to double check with with BMW/realoem before you go ahead and order them though! They were all about £11.50 + VAT each.

DoriDave · 06-12-2007, 16:47

Cheers muchly buddy, will have a looksie.

Andy.w · 08-12-2007, 02:12

Diamond, nice one....

big job but well worth it

DoriDave · 02-02-2008, 21:48

This is now back on track! Bloody christmas, baaaa humbug.

Finally had a spare few quid and courtesy of Andy Bird (hope you got the motor out guys), picked up a replacement rear hub assembly.

Empty hub hole

Replacement hub

Also got a couple of interior odds and sods so it'll ressemble a car again!

DoriDave · 19-08-2008, 19:59

Lol@the forgotten thread!!!

Got thoroughly bored shitless of the other half watching frigging oylmpics all week, got sod all money to spend on the electrical wiper fault for the MOT to be done. Had a think about what else the car could do with that won't cost me anything, then EUREKA!!! On a veeeery quiet night shift, 'borrowed' the engineers workshop key to hunt for some goodies. Only thing I could find were a couple of old washers!!!

Then today I got the car in the air, had a look at the rack and arms

Undid said arm and blow me the washers fit quite nicely, a useful 4mm thick too!!!

Put it all back together, and increased lock FTW!!! (need to get in all lined up now

)

Get paid in a couple of days so a BMW techy guy can plug into the diagnostics to find out why the wipers have a mind of their own. Other than that, not really a lot of progress due to having frick all overtime at work, so no spare monies to play with

Seriously thinking about trailering it to a Pod beginner day just to try and skid the damn thing!!!

Also got a mate working something out for the bodywork/paint

20vWill · 19-08-2008, 20:28

You probably don't have any more lock though, since those washers are massive and look like they will foul the rack housing (hence not allowing any more travel).

Ideally the rack spacer should be a little smaller than the rack itself.

And spring washers aren't ideal as they can open up under load and move around slightly. Something like precision engineered Chizfab E36 lock spacers would have been much better!

15-11-2007, 18:01	#27 (permalink)
cossie1 gripper Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	big wig above bought it last yr for about £1800 I think. I bought it off him for £300 as he just wanted it out the way and I needed a runabout till I found what I was looking for. I sold it a couple of weeks later to someone from essex for £850 It had full cream leather, 18" lenso Mesh alloys and was sat on it's arse. There was no scorpion back box on it, was a std box with 2 scorpion DTM tips welded to it. Looks like it's changed hands a couple of times since I sold it back in july. Last edited by cossie1 : 15-11-2007 at 18:05.

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12-11-2007, 22:13	#21 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,472	cant you buy some plates to go onto the diff mounting points to stop it ripping the floor?swear ive seen them somewhere

13-11-2007, 00:08	#22 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Just scuffed the floor, nothing major. Just bit of a ballache taking the diff out to remove sheared bolts. I can always get some plates made up at work anywho.

13-11-2007, 00:45	#23 (permalink)
ren_juanjo buttercakes!! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: fife, scotlandshire Posts: 854	you can indeed buy the plates from BMW. i would advise it sooner rather than later as my diff ripped out the captive nuts from the floorpan, and about two inches all around it as well

13-11-2007, 10:16	#24 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,152	That's not the diff mounts, that's the subframe mounts. Easy repair even when they break, it's just a matter of the hassle of the car being out of action when it wants to be instead of when you want it to be.

15-11-2007, 17:59	#26 (permalink)
big_wig_074 gripper Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 23	this is my old car,yeah theres 2 handbrake cables,one for each rear hub.the right one should be there,left one is cut.

17-11-2007, 17:33	#28 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Managed to find a matching door card on ebay. Will have a nosey at the cables tomorrow. Bit miffed that eurocarparts or GSF parts didn't list the seperate cables. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

01-12-2007, 17:32	#29 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Little update, got the door card in, not essential drifty usage, but does tidy it up no end. Got the new handbrake cable joined up at the handle end, removed the rear wheel and discovered two of the wheel bolts are sheared, check the other rims and i've got four of the buggers missing!!! Didn't get as much planned as I would have liked because of arsey alarm fitters and a fricked immobiliser on the Skyline. Will have another crack at the Beemer tomorrow. Bloody things been nothing but sheared bolts!!!

02-12-2007, 23:57	#30 (permalink)
Mike@TDSW dorifto kingu! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,462	That was a steal, it would of made a bloody good spares car for mine.

03-12-2007, 21:41	#32 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Andy, from what I can make out on mine, the front diff mount bolt sheared and when it has drive going through it, it kicks the front of the diff up towards the floor. Where the prop and diff connect (4 bolts) this part is basically trying to cut through the floor! I might just get some sheet metal from work and bolt a piece in for now.

03-12-2007, 21:53	#33 (permalink)
Two_Sheds chaplad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 529	Theres 4 studs/bolts that hold the whole rear subframe/diff carrier to the floor of the car, and in early cars they can be ripped out, taking the floor with it - leading to a costly repair bill or scrapping of the shell. BMW themselves do the 4 reinforcement plates for about 65 quid, and its quite a big job, as it requires dropping the rear subframe off and getting the fuel tank out. Drop me a PM and I can send you the part numbers and a link to a thread on e36coupe.co.uk that shows what needs doing, and I might be able to get some pics of mine as its up on the ramps at Chizfab at the moment.

03-12-2007, 22:08	#34 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Schweet two sheds, can you post the part numbers please dude?

06-12-2007, 14:39	#35 (permalink)
Two_Sheds chaplad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 529	Theres a guide as to whats involved here: www.e36coupe.com :: Log in and anoher link to them: Turner Motorsport - Item# 4111225649 - E36 Rear Subframe/Chassis Reinforcement Kit - E36 And part numbers are: 41.00.2.256.495 41.00.2.256.496 41.11.2.256.497 41.11.2.256.498 They're all designated as "spacer rings", you might want to double check with with BMW/realoem before you go ahead and order them though! They were all about £11.50 + VAT each.

06-12-2007, 16:47	#36 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Cheers muchly buddy, will have a looksie.

08-12-2007, 02:12	#37 (permalink)
Andy.w dorifto kingu! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 650	Diamond, nice one.... big job but well worth it

02-02-2008, 21:48	#38 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	This is now back on track! Bloody christmas, baaaa humbug. Finally had a spare few quid and courtesy of Andy Bird (hope you got the motor out guys), picked up a replacement rear hub assembly. Empty hub hole Replacement hub Also got a couple of interior odds and sods so it'll ressemble a car again!

19-08-2008, 19:59	#39 (permalink)
DoriDave Unroadworthy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 2 miles from the Pod Posts: 1,200	Lol@the forgotten thread!!! Got thoroughly bored shitless of the other half watching frigging oylmpics all week, got sod all money to spend on the electrical wiper fault for the MOT to be done. Had a think about what else the car could do with that won't cost me anything, then EUREKA!!! On a veeeery quiet night shift, 'borrowed' the engineers workshop key to hunt for some goodies. Only thing I could find were a couple of old washers!!! Then today I got the car in the air, had a look at the rack and arms Undid said arm and blow me the washers fit quite nicely, a useful 4mm thick too!!! Put it all back together, and increased lock FTW!!! (need to get in all lined up now ) Get paid in a couple of days so a BMW techy guy can plug into the diagnostics to find out why the wipers have a mind of their own. Other than that, not really a lot of progress due to having frick all overtime at work, so no spare monies to play with Seriously thinking about trailering it to a Pod beginner day just to try and skid the damn thing!!! Also got a mate working something out for the bodywork/paint

19-08-2008, 20:28	#40 (permalink)
20vWill ...... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Doon Sooth Posts: 3,717	You probably don't have any more lock though, since those washers are massive and look like they will foul the rack housing (hence not allowing any more travel). Ideally the rack spacer should be a little smaller than the rack itself. And spring washers aren't ideal as they can open up under load and move around slightly. Something like precision engineered Chizfab E36 lock spacers would have been much better!