DRAGON Circuit car - Drifting forum

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 19:03

After a 3 year build, in which the car has evolved more and more, this has made the build take so long!
We have finally got the car running. However I dont feel it will be competive for a few months yet, after we can sus out what works and what wont, as there are a few new ideas in the build.
In the future I want some to get some drifting done in it, some crazy smokey high speed stuff just for youtube, as I think the car will be more than suitable.

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 19:03

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MTW · 26-05-2008, 19:05

looks absolutely brutal.

Jimthejunior · 26-05-2008, 19:05

copy the imgcode into your reply. easy as

RandomGuy · 26-05-2008, 19:07

awesome

steveep82 · 26-05-2008, 19:13

Does it run on methanol? Hence the lack of intercooler?

john ps13 · 26-05-2008, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveep82

Does it run on methanol? Hence the lack of intercooler?

good question

awesome car

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveep82

Does it run on methanol? Hence the lack of intercooler?

No just pump fuel and Aquamist water injection.

kriss · 26-05-2008, 19:34

that looks completely bodged together ............. and i for one LOVE IT !

Stavros · 26-05-2008, 20:24

finally

pre-compressor water inj? how you finding it? its something i've wanted to do for ages as it seems more effective than anything, but never actually tried yet...

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 20:36

Havent tested enough yet. But we will be able to give some feedback soon. Richard at Aquamist as been really helpful, a true enthusiast, at the moment we are upping jet sizes as intakes are to high. Be interesting to see if we can eventually solve the heat issues.
I think Pre turbo WI would work best on something like Rx or GTR with stock turbos, so you could raise the compressor map efficiency and retain the low down boost. Key thing is to get the jet outlet as close to the centre of compressor wheel as possible.

Beezy · 26-05-2008, 20:42

Thinking of Aquamist water injection myself but, how well would it work with a intercooler?

Jon

Car Media · 26-05-2008, 20:46

Batmobile!................................. Love it!............

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 20:47

Perfect with an IC, were just trying something, I wouldnt advise running without and IC.

The massivley increased intake temps will be very bad for your engine. Also your ecu will not be happy about it either and punish you by retarding your timing etc.

Beezy · 26-05-2008, 20:50

So like run it and set it up wile mapping etc, also fine on a new built engine?

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 20:56

You will rarely find and engine that is properly mapped to optimise the WI, most set-ups are just a reliability feature. However big gains can be made power wise with water, although if the water is not injected for whatever reason, then you may well blow the engine.
So as I say the engine will be mapped, irrelevant of the presence of the WI.

Beezy · 26-05-2008, 21:19

Great stuff, many thanks!

Must say car looks really good, engine bay is amazing!

Spotted the front strut brace, can you buy them ones with the extra mount?

DRAGONFD3S · 26-05-2008, 21:22

No we made that. Lots of custom stuff on it, thats why we need lots more testing.

Beezy · 26-05-2008, 21:25

Good stuff, Good luck with all the testing.

Jon

HellaFlush · 27-05-2008, 00:24

I fell in love with this car the first time i saw it, 3 years ago.. Have always loved the look of the car.. best RX ever in my eyes

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DRAGONFD3S doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 65	DRAGON Circuit car After a 3 year build, in which the car has evolved more and more, this has made the build take so long! We have finally got the car running. However I dont feel it will be competive for a few months yet, after we can sus out what works and what wont, as there are a few new ideas in the build. In the future I want some to get some drifting done in it, some crazy smokey high speed stuff just for youtube, as I think the car will be more than suitable. Last edited by DRAGONFD3S : 26-05-2008 at 19:11.

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DRAGONFD3S doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 65	Perfect with an IC, were just trying something, I wouldnt advise running without and IC. The massivley increased intake temps will be very bad for your engine. Also your ecu will not be happy about it either and punish you by retarding your timing etc. Last edited by DRAGONFD3S : 26-05-2008 at 20:50.

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26-05-2008, 19:05	#3 (permalink)
MTW STREET DICK Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lympstone cdo Posts: 1,007	looks absolutely brutal.

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Jimthejunior Represent Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,944	copy the imgcode into your reply. easy as

26-05-2008, 19:07	#5 (permalink)
RandomGuy Team Japspeed Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 7,017	awesome

26-05-2008, 19:13	#6 (permalink)
steveep82 spl dori master Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Launceston, Cornwall Posts: 277	Does it run on methanol? Hence the lack of intercooler?

26-05-2008, 19:34	#9 (permalink)
kriss doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 73	that looks completely bodged together ............. and i for one LOVE IT !

26-05-2008, 20:24	#10 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 10,355	finally pre-compressor water inj? how you finding it? its something i've wanted to do for ages as it seems more effective than anything, but never actually tried yet...

26-05-2008, 20:36	#11 (permalink)
DRAGONFD3S doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 65	Havent tested enough yet. But we will be able to give some feedback soon. Richard at Aquamist as been really helpful, a true enthusiast, at the moment we are upping jet sizes as intakes are to high. Be interesting to see if we can eventually solve the heat issues. I think Pre turbo WI would work best on something like Rx or GTR with stock turbos, so you could raise the compressor map efficiency and retain the low down boost. Key thing is to get the jet outlet as close to the centre of compressor wheel as possible.

26-05-2008, 20:42	#12 (permalink)
Beezy Pimp slider! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ashford Posts: 1,673	Thinking of Aquamist water injection myself but, how well would it work with a intercooler? Jon

26-05-2008, 20:46	#13 (permalink)
Car Media Doughnut Eater Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunny, Suffolk Posts: 392	Batmobile!................................. Love it!............

26-05-2008, 20:50	#15 (permalink)
Beezy Pimp slider! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ashford Posts: 1,673	So like run it and set it up wile mapping etc, also fine on a new built engine?

26-05-2008, 20:56	#16 (permalink)
DRAGONFD3S doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 65	You will rarely find and engine that is properly mapped to optimise the WI, most set-ups are just a reliability feature. However big gains can be made power wise with water, although if the water is not injected for whatever reason, then you may well blow the engine. So as I say the engine will be mapped, irrelevant of the presence of the WI.

26-05-2008, 21:19	#17 (permalink)
Beezy Pimp slider! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ashford Posts: 1,673	Great stuff, many thanks! Must say car looks really good, engine bay is amazing! Spotted the front strut brace, can you buy them ones with the extra mount?

26-05-2008, 21:22	#18 (permalink)
DRAGONFD3S doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 65	No we made that. Lots of custom stuff on it, thats why we need lots more testing.

26-05-2008, 21:25	#19 (permalink)
Beezy Pimp slider! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ashford Posts: 1,673	Good stuff, Good luck with all the testing. Jon

27-05-2008, 00:24	#20 (permalink)
HellaFlush TeamLifestyler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sussex Posts: 1,616	I fell in love with this car the first time i saw it, 3 years ago.. Have always loved the look of the car.. best RX ever in my eyes