Drift mags.

[spin-king]

Just woundering are there any monthly drift mags that you can buy???

like fast ford banzai and stuff.

If so where can you get them from???

And if not why

[LiGhTnInG]

drift-tengoku

japan

[Dori Edd]

drifting magazine - US, could probs get a subscription a mite easier than doriten

[Stavros]

No UK based ones.

As much as id love one (or love to write for one), the attendance at drift events in the UK show the market is next to nothing still, so not big enough for a mag to make cash.

[robrs2]

You never know Max power seem to be looking for a new market

[LiGhTnInG]

Originally Posted by robrs2

You never know Max power seem to be looking for a new market

please. god. no.

[Stavros]

Originally Posted by robrs2

You never know Max power seem to be looking for a new market

Even the specialist Jap mags have yet to manage to do an accurate drift report/feature that shows they truly understand drifting, so god help you if they have a go.
No point reading stuff if it doesnt tell you what you want to know.

I did the D1GB reports for Redline last year, and feedback has been good from them, but thats most likely cause I properly understand the rules, the judging, the people, etc (hell, Lex can vouch for my judging skills ), but if someone else from the mag or whatever wrote it, even if they love drifting, they wouldnt be able to write it in a way that taught people who are really into drifting anything, as they dont understand it in the right detail.

Its really difficult to write this without blowing my own trumpet (dont you needs your ribs removed for that? ) but the only detailed/correct drift stuff ive ever seen in UK magazines is the stuff ive written, so a drift mag would have no chance unless some of YOU guys wrote it, and even then itd need to be some of the right few people who truly understand it right down to the technical details, to make it correct.


The trouble with magazines and always has been, and would be the issue with a drift only mag even more so, is that readers arnt stupid, and more often than not with a LOT of mags, its obvious the writer doesnt really know what hes on about.

No amount of fancy journalistic skills can hide it when the reader of a magazine clearly knows more than the writer of the article he is reading.

Without wanting to be bitchy "new" Max screams of that.

[LiGhTnInG]

Originally Posted by Stavros

Even the specialist Jap mags have yet to manage to do an accurate drift report/feature that shows they truly understand drifting, so god help you if they have a go.

I disagree.

Although the max cover of the exhibition last year sucked, i did read a feature of it in another mag that was actually pretty good.

[MJG]

I beleive Stavros' articles are the only ones which demonstrate drift knowledge rather than "ooh I luv driftin' me! This guy has a skyline and he DRIFTS, drifting is skiddin' but under control, basic drift mods are a 2-way LSD and a big turbo for mega JAP booooooost"

[Stavros]

Originally Posted by LiGhTnInG

Although the max cover of the exhibition last year sucked, i did read a feature of it in another mag that was actually pretty good.

Redline perchance? See my edited post. Proper detail and explanation. Not cliche'd bullshit to fill the pages because they dont really understand what was happening.

[LiGhTnInG]

Originally Posted by Stavros

Redline perchance? See my edited post. Proper detail and explanation. Not cliche'd bullshit to fill the pages because they dont really understand what was happening.

I think it was redline.

The max power one's started off rubbish when they showed a picture of two s14's and described them as s13's.

thats pretty basic stuff, who can't tell the difference between those two?

Showed that they didn't really give a fuck, and considering I only purchased the magazine for that feature, I felt pretty robbed.

[S14Adrian]

Without bum licking Stav,it is great that there is a UK mag writer that is into actual drifting and not just passing information on to the reader without understanding what its technical content is.I understand that drifting has to be reported by these mags so that they can bandwagon new motoring trends but sometimes it is frustrating that you feel you know more than the writer.Stav's coverage of Trampdrifting,would MaxPower understand this concept because the cars dont look like F&F3 refugees?

[Dan Goodyer]

Originally Posted by LiGhTnInG

thats pretty basic stuff, who can't tell the difference between those two?

Totally agree. Same old shite I'm afraid

At the end of the day the people that shout loudest get heard. I've been into drifting for a long time, and I have tried to support the scene as much as possible.

In particular I used to push for drifting features to appear in Redline - wrote what I believe was the first 'guide' in a UK mag (although I'd admit that much of the help/inspiration came from people like Chris Parry) in 2003. Nobody seemed to noticed.

Then I was fortunate enough to be a judge at a couple of early 'D1' events (as they were called then, which we now know were not necessarily 'official') back in the Kiki days, including the final round. One competitor made his debut and was unhappy with his relatively low score. He came up to me at the end of the event and asked me why he scored so lowly - I told him his entry speed wasn't as fast as the other competitors, he missed the apex's by a large amount and he straightened up mid-corner on his first entry. Then all he kept saying was "but that was my best run of the day, etc"

There seems to be an attitude in this country that drifters know everything and that anyone who isn't a regular at D1/P1/S1/Bovvy won't understand.

Obviously Steve and I are on the 'same side' but it does annoy me when people make general comments. I have written drifting features, are you saying that I don't understand judging? The cars? What drifting is!?!

In the last year or two I have pretty much stopped attending drift events because I got tired of banging my head against a brick wall. A lot of people I speak to un the industry are put off attending/competing by the 'cliquey' (sp?) nature of the scene. The Media can only help the sport to grow. The trouble is, half the people involved seem to want it to grow, are positive towards the media. While another large body of people want to keep drifting 'their' thing - for them and their mates to enjoy only. "God help us if the Saxo chavs get into drifting ooo errr"

I was reading the pre-redesign Max power - where they seperated 'Power' from 'Styling'. In the 'Power' section they had a really decent go at some drift coverage but then made a schoolboy error. I.e, "the corolla is commonly called a hachi roku after it's engine code AE86"

A small mistake. Unneccesary. And one of the reasons Max has picked up an unfortunate reputation as the general readership has become more educated - more able to pick up on the mistakes. It's the kind of mistake that tars myself, Stavros, anyone in the mag world who gives a shite about drifting with the same brush. But at the end of the day if emap/Max launched a drift mag it could only be a good thing.

All I'm saying is that 'haters', and this is aimed largely at you Mike, love getting on the keyboard soapbox but without media exposure, without people knowing about drifting, few venues will be willing to hold events. There will be no EDC, etc. And as soon as we get those little government boxes in our cars you can kiss streeto goodbye.

Bottom line is - I've been here. If the drift scene wants to be promoted in a positive way with decent ACCURATE editorial then let me know!

[MJG]

Originally Posted by MJG

I beleive Stavros' articles are the only ones which demonstrate drift knowledge rather than "ooh I luv driftin' me! This guy has a skyline and he DRIFTS, drifting is skiddin' but under control, basic drift mods are a 2-way LSD and a big turbo for mega JAP booooooost"

I don't see how this is a keyboard soapbox, I was sayin most drift things I've read are like that /\

If you forgive me, I was 16 in 2003 and didn't know about drifting, I didn't buy any magazines and so I can't comment on your article.

I love the publicity drifting gets, so please don't get annoyed if you think otherwise - look on Tramp Drift, we are all really happy about our publicity in Redline even though it is/was a "chav mag", we see it as good publicity and as long as it is portrayed with the right meaning, as it was in Fast Ford too, then it can only be good.

Hope you can understand that, as I don't want you to think I am being negative about drift publicity Chav drifting and real drifting is different, as we are now familiar with on Driftworks, but there has been a lot of new members on DW and TD that who are sound dudes and we can accredit some of that directly to our magazine publicity

[Dan Goodyer]

I didn't mean that quote specifically, more your anti-Japanese, anti-anything built with a budget larger than £10. Anything that isn't built in a shed in someone's back garden.

I guess I'm just frustrated that the people who are shouting loudest are getting heard that's all.

[Day]

Theres a few points i dont like about the attitude of drifters and the drifting 'community'. Some might be a bit away from this topic though.

Like, i dont go to events anymore, because it seemed sort of clinical ( i only really went to big events so smaller ones my be different), in a way that near enough every drift looked the same, because there was cones laid out that you had to 'clip'. Now surely drifting isnt about hitting marks or racing lines, its about angle, getting the arse out, speed, style, execution, technique etc etc. I really couldnt enjoy it. I really would prefer to go watch some relatively new people, learning, purely because you can see them having fun, and trying different lines and techniques.

Another thing i dont like is the attitude of many drifters. A lot of them seem to be in it as much for the fame and 'being better then anyone else' then actually doing the sport. This is proven by how many posers there are, equally so by how many idiots there are who think theyre something special, yet can only powerover on their open diff.

These are the sort of things that seem to push me away from the drifting scene. Its why i prefer the Old Skool ford scene because is more laid back and genuine.

On the other hand i love they way trampdrift do their own thing. Lots of people struggle to sort out a cheap second car just to go drifting on the odd weekend. The way they dont care how good or how famous they get, purely just enjoying drifting for what it is, and thats fun.

I like this forum because it seems the centre of the UK drift scene. It also offers great help by knowledgable enthusiasts who genuinely care about drifting. It helps set up events, and advertise them.

Thats why i think a mag should be made. Because there is people out there who know what they talking about. Who could teach the novices a bit more about drifting. I know id buy it.

I reckopn someone shouyld do it, or at least drop the idea into the minds of someone who has the power to do it. Imagine what it could do to the scene? Mistakes or no mistakes. If the mag is written with total honesty and not nessicarily technical knowledge, surely itd be a winner?

[MJG]

Originally Posted by Carolgees

I didn't mean that quote specifically, more your anti-Japanese, anti-anything built with a budget larger than £10. Anything that isn't built in a shed in someone's back garden.

I guess I'm just frustrated that the people who are shouting loudest are getting heard that's all.

You don't know me very well so you've missed my actual attitude there.

Also, if I was getting heard, then surely everyone would hate 4dr skylines, not have hovercraft bodykits, and not have big gay wings? Oh no... That's right, I'm not being heard more than anybody else and the drift scene is the same as it has always been

Tramp Drift is my little forum, for people as Day described them who want to have fun without any hassle.

Also, I don't dislike big budget cars one bit, in relation to my income, my car takes up 90% of my budget, so to me, it's budget is huge.

[Andy Barnes]

Originally Posted by Carolgees

Totally agree. Same old shite I'm afraid

There seems to be an attitude in this country that drifters know everything and that anyone who isn't a regular at D1/P1/S1/Bovvy won't understand.

A lot of people I speak to un the industry are put off attending/competing by the 'cliquey' (sp?) nature of the scene. The Media can only help the sport to grow. The trouble is, half the people involved seem to want it to grow, are positive towards the media. While another large body of people want to keep drifting 'their' thing - for them and their mates to enjoy only. "God help us if the Saxo chavs get into drifting ooo errr"

but without media exposure, without people knowing about drifting, few venues will be willing to hold events. There will be no EDC, etc.

Bottom line is - I've been here. If the drift scene wants to be promoted in a positive way with decent ACCURATE editorial then let me know!

Sorry Carolgees but you are full of it. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Andy

[MJG]

Bwahaha

[Dan Goodyer]

*just typed a long reply and it timed out. I'm not doing it again*

Not at all. Why? Because Sir Andy thinks so? lol.

I don't know why you've got involved Andy??? But i'm grateful I know where I stand with you now.

Dan.