Anybody with Derv Drifting EXPERIENCE - Drifting forum

jamespa28 · 08-01-2008, 13:30

You guessed it, I'm considering buying a diesel! A 325tds to be exact.

I've decided the silvia is to go over the coming months and after lots of consideration this has been my next best match! I've been looking for something cheap, RWD, somewhat tuneable

and relatively economical, so a bimmer diesel fits the bill!

I'm sure I can get the thing to skid with a bit of boost and a welder, but obviously I'm gonna have F all rev range to play with, obviously the engine behaves/performs differently to the petrol turbo's im used to!

In a nutshell what experience do any of you have with this?

I'm not really after general opinion as I've made my own

More so what people have witnessed/experienced themselves!

Cheers

Mattyboi · 08-01-2008, 13:34

I think kickinggriffin is drifting a diesel BMW at pod tomorrow, so he might be the best person to ask tomoz night.

Chunk had a go in an old bimmer once or twice to i think.

jamespa28 · 08-01-2008, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Mattyboi

I think kickinggriffin is drifting a diesel BMW at pod tomorrow, so he might be the best person to ask tomoz night.

Chunk had a go in an old bimmer once or twice to i think.

Yeah I've spoken to Kickingriffin, he seems quite confident with the bm, looking forward to finding out how he gets on! Just thought I'd see what others thought if anyone had tried it!

Pikey · 08-01-2008, 13:39

jamespa28 · 08-01-2008, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Pikey

You wanna add anything to that geoffrey? Or are you just worried that I'm gonna beet your ass in my Dervworks special

Mattyboi · 08-01-2008, 13:44

if people can skid shitebox 1.4L volvo 340`s then having a play in a diesel bimmer etc is gonna be easy.

Midrange skidding for the win!

Dunx · 08-01-2008, 13:49

An idea Ive thought about too - be interested in the outcome

Pikey · 08-01-2008, 13:51

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Originally Posted by james-diesel-fetish-100000-a-tron

You wanna add anything to that geoffrey?

Yeah, I dont think I put enough

s in to really convey how much of a truly epic FAIL that would be

I'll give you 3 weeks before you regret selling your awesome S15 and buy a shitter of an S13 like everyone else

jamespa28 · 08-01-2008, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Pikey

Yeah, I dont think I put enough

s in to really convey how much of a truly epic FAIL that would be

I'll give you 3 weeks before you regret selling your awesome S15 and buy a shitter of an S13 like everyone else

I Haven't laughed so much all day!

I'm selling it regardless so I can save up for a house! That's the only viable excuse I could possibly make for selling it anyway!

I'm gonna have a go anyway! Expect It's inevitable I'll end up regretting it, but I'm gonna try it, worst comes to worst, I'll slap an open diff in and sell it!

Then choose amongst the shitters on offer

Ian.G · 08-01-2008, 14:11

A chipped 330/530d sport with M-tech diff in the back would be savage I'm sure.

I am 99.9999% certain this will be my next road weapon later this year. There were quite a few quick 330d's over at the ring last time I went - and a few were a bit skiddy too round brunchen (or however you spell it).

Revs are obviously a problem - but do you really need revs when you have nearly 400lb/ft of torques available at almost tickover.

Pikey · 08-01-2008, 14:18

Yeah but we're not talking about a 330d - we're talking about a 525tds with all of its 146bhp (the same power as my Scorpio, lol)

T.K · 08-01-2008, 14:45

There are a few (zim zimmer powered) derv Omegas skidding in Scandanavia. They run massive truck turbos. There's a video kicking around somewhere..

**Bon Bon** · 08-01-2008, 14:47

325/525tds can be chipped to about 185bhp/300lbft

slidewaysdrifter · 08-01-2008, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Bon Bon

325/525tds can be chipped to about 185bhp/300lbft

i know a lad who drifts a e34 525tds its chipped has a bigger turbo and it is ok it makes about 210bhp if i remember correctly but its the torque that is impressive its over 300lbft
its laggy as hell and its on boost rips like mad and then its all over way too fast its a bit all or nothing
it does not hold him back though and he does well with it to be fair here is a piccy

**Bon Bon** · 08-01-2008, 16:15

SLAMMED at the front. Gangster!!

ren_juanjo · 08-01-2008, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bon Bon

325/525tds can be chipped to about 185bhp/300lbft

as a side note, i gots a 525tds for towing the m3 about - do we reckon chipping it will absolutely ruin the fuel economy or make for a smoother, and hence more fuel efficient towing experience?

I only gets about 22mpg towing at the moment so anything is a bonus...

**Bon Bon** · 08-01-2008, 16:31

22mpg towing?! Really?? Same as my old 735i towing on cruise control then... lol

I reckon for towing the economy would be better, since the extra torques would help it haul itself along better. Would imagine fitting a decent intercooler would help quite a bit too.

slidewaysdrifter · 08-01-2008, 16:38

john with the above car said it is a little better if he drives it normally but he also says that around town and cruising the car is not boosting at all now as it later in the rev range but when its being driven hard its poor, as in he says worse than the petrol equivalent and he loses all the benefits he bought it for in the first place and the engine is ubber heavy to boot and has massive understeer problems but having never driven it its hard to say it does shift though its surprisingly fast

PeterT · 08-01-2008, 16:52

duno if this is any use, but its an 'e28 524td' , seems to be alrite!

GmasterT · 08-01-2008, 16:53

your best of (if you have the grunts) drifting mid range in a higher gear as you run out of revs and powaaars holding it like a petrol

Thats from my experiance anyhoo

08-01-2008, 13:30	#1 (permalink)
jamespa28 dorifto kingu! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gloucester, England Posts: 1,180	Anybody with Derv Drifting EXPERIENCE You guessed it, I'm considering buying a diesel! A 325tds to be exact. I've decided the silvia is to go over the coming months and after lots of consideration this has been my next best match! I've been looking for something cheap, RWD, somewhat tuneable and relatively economical, so a bimmer diesel fits the bill! I'm sure I can get the thing to skid with a bit of boost and a welder, but obviously I'm gonna have F all rev range to play with, obviously the engine behaves/performs differently to the petrol turbo's im used to! In a nutshell what experience do any of you have with this? I'm not really after general opinion as I've made my own More so what people have witnessed/experienced themselves! Cheers

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08-01-2008, 13:34	#2 (permalink)
Mattyboi InitialD erby Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Derby Posts: 4,543	I think kickinggriffin is drifting a diesel BMW at pod tomorrow, so he might be the best person to ask tomoz night. Chunk had a go in an old bimmer once or twice to i think.

08-01-2008, 13:39	#4 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,983

08-01-2008, 13:44	#6 (permalink)
Mattyboi InitialD erby Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Derby Posts: 4,543	if people can skid shitebox 1.4L volvo 340`s then having a play in a diesel bimmer etc is gonna be easy. Midrange skidding for the win!

08-01-2008, 13:49	#7 (permalink)
Dunx spl dori master Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 429	An idea Ive thought about too - be interested in the outcome

08-01-2008, 14:11	#10 (permalink)
Ian.G ? DERV1 GP ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Derby UK - Land of road legal race cars Posts: 1,846	A chipped 330/530d sport with M-tech diff in the back would be savage I'm sure. I am 99.9999% certain this will be my next road weapon later this year. There were quite a few quick 330d's over at the ring last time I went - and a few were a bit skiddy too round brunchen (or however you spell it). Revs are obviously a problem - but do you really need revs when you have nearly 400lb/ft of torques available at almost tickover.

08-01-2008, 14:18	#11 (permalink)
Pikey dorifto kingu! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,983	Yeah but we're not talking about a 330d - we're talking about a 525tds with all of its 146bhp (the same power as my Scorpio, lol)

08-01-2008, 14:45	#12 (permalink)
T.K kudo fruiting Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,539	There are a few (zim zimmer powered) derv Omegas skidding in Scandanavia. They run massive truck turbos. There's a video kicking around somewhere..

08-01-2008, 14:47	#13 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Solihull, West Midlands Posts: 4,482	325/525tds can be chipped to about 185bhp/300lbft

08-01-2008, 16:15	#15 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Solihull, West Midlands Posts: 4,482	SLAMMED at the front. Gangster!!

08-01-2008, 16:31	#17 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Solihull, West Midlands Posts: 4,482	22mpg towing?! Really?? Same as my old 735i towing on cruise control then... lol I reckon for towing the economy would be better, since the extra torques would help it haul itself along better. Would imagine fitting a decent intercooler would help quite a bit too.

08-01-2008, 16:38	#18 (permalink)
slidewaysdrifter spl dori master Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: stockport Posts: 349	john with the above car said it is a little better if he drives it normally but he also says that around town and cruising the car is not boosting at all now as it later in the rev range but when its being driven hard its poor, as in he says worse than the petrol equivalent and he loses all the benefits he bought it for in the first place and the engine is ubber heavy to boot and has massive understeer problems but having never driven it its hard to say it does shift though its surprisingly fast

08-01-2008, 16:52	#19 (permalink)
PeterT dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: County Wicklow, Ireland Posts: 702	duno if this is any use, but its an 'e28 524td' , seems to be alrite!

08-01-2008, 16:53	#20 (permalink)
GmasterT shall return!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Under an S-body Posts: 1,125	your best of (if you have the grunts) drifting mid range in a higher gear as you run out of revs and powaaars holding it like a petrol Thats from my experiance anyhoo