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Old 26-04-2008, 01:56   #61 (permalink)
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most ca's you buy second hand for buttons dont last long as theyre buttons for a reason

a well maintained low mileage unit and/or a weel re-built one with decent mapping wtc is fine

i was aiming to have a go at beating big tone with mine but he's just raised the bar and its supposed to be near 700hp now if not a little more
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Old 26-04-2008, 10:02   #62 (permalink)
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whoever told you that is wrong/retarded
i thought it was impossible to bore wash an engine on standard injectors but just repeating wat i was told
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Old 26-04-2008, 10:12   #63 (permalink)
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ca's are sammy proof..sr's arent and i looked after the sr.

ca deffo gets my vote
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Old 27-04-2008, 00:16   #64 (permalink)
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why do people even compare CA's SR's and RB's
surely a better comparision would be to compare them to similar engines from different manufactuers
for instance comparing an SR to a YB or a CA to a VAG 1.8t (alright that ones a bit stupid since VAG 1.8t aint gona be used for drifting much)

'lets compare a cheap 1.8 turbo engine to an expensive 2.6 twin turbod engine!!!'
f-ocking stupid
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Old 27-04-2008, 20:53   #65 (permalink)
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why do people even compare CA's SR's and RB's
surely a better comparision would be to compare them to similar engines from different manufactuers
for instance comparing an SR to a YB or a CA to a VAG 1.8t (alright that ones a bit stupid since VAG 1.8t aint gona be used for drifting much)

'lets compare a cheap 1.8 turbo engine to an expensive 2.6 twin turbod engine!!!'
f-ocking stupid
well put m8
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Old 27-04-2008, 21:55   #66 (permalink)
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i thought it was impossible to bore wash an engine on standard injectors but just repeating wat i was told
Nothing to do with that bit mate, you can bore wash an engine on injectors smaller than an ants cock if you wanted.

That one failing and the others over compensating bit was the rubbish.
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Old 27-04-2008, 21:56   #67 (permalink)
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+1 4 CA i loved mine revvy is
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Old 27-04-2008, 21:57   #68 (permalink)
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for instance comparing an SR to a YB or a CA to a VAG 1.8t
Not ideal that, as the 1.8T and YB piss all over the SR and CA.

But a CA is just fine IMO, all the comments about it being wank have been totally unfounded bollocks with no technical reasoning so far.
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Old 27-04-2008, 21:59   #69 (permalink)
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Not ideal that, as the 1.8T and YB piss all over the SR and CA.

But a CA is just fine IMO, all the comments about it being wank have been totally unfounded bollocks with no technical reasoning so far.
How many CA engines have you built Stavros? How many have you owned/drifted or given a hard time? Have you ever owned an SR20? Ever looked at the port/combustion chamber design on either?

Just out of interest.

Also, why do the "1.8t and yb engines piss all over SR's and CA's"

All pissing around and joking aside, in the CA's defence, there actual design is bloody fantastic. The heads flow a lot better than the SR's and the port angle is spot on It's just the strenth of the bottom end that's such a bummer. The durability of the standard SR is far superior to the CA but the blacktop heads suck balls.

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Old 27-04-2008, 22:11   #70 (permalink)
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WTF Mr Bizzle standing up for the CA ?!!
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:15   #71 (permalink)
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Not ideal that, as the 1.8T and YB piss all over the SR and CA.
but you would agree a far more sensible comparision that some of the ones made regularly on here?
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:20   #72 (permalink)
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How many CA engines have you built Stavros? How many have you owned/drifted or given a hard time? Have you ever owned an SR20? Ever looked at the port/combustion chamber design on either?
CAs- 1.
Hard time- 2
SR20- No, why would I.
Ever looked ports, chambers, etc?- Yes. CAs are suprisingly huge and valve train design is not gay like the SR. Ports on both are bigger than YB, but TBH that seems to be part of the reason their low/mid torque totally sucks ball. Either that or SR tuners havent a clue, lol.

Next question please. Maybe you wanna talk about your high compression theorys again

YB and 1.8T Piss on? Well, either the engines or the tuners do, as the results totally speak for themselves...
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:24   #73 (permalink)
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Next question please. Maybe you wanna talk about your high compression theorys again
Either that or we could take about lifestylers who do a lot of talking and very little actual drifting?


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Old 27-04-2008, 22:24   #74 (permalink)
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Nothing to do with that bit mate, you can bore wash an engine on injectors smaller than an ants cock if you wanted.

That one failing and the others over compensating bit was the rubbish.
Thats how Gary's engine died. Maybe you should speak to him/garage-D if you know better. I'm sure they would appreciate the info.
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:28   #75 (permalink)
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Bizzle- One that since his cars been working right has been to every DWYB there has been?

Lightning- Your telling me that one injector failed, so the others magically started pumping more fuel in? Why would they do that then?
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:38   #76 (permalink)
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Lightning- Your telling me that one injector failed, so the others magically started pumping more fuel in? Why would they do that then?
It depends what's being used to regulate the fuel pressure. The standard FPR on the car should stop the fuel pressure building up no matter what's happening. So if the FPR is set to 1.5 bar, no matter whether 1 injector is firing or 6 injectors are singing away hapily the rail should be pressurised to 1.5 bar meaning the injector will flow the same fuel.
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:43   #77 (permalink)
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Exactly, thats how all fuel pressure regulators work, and injectors are just solenoid valves so they dont know how many are working, neither does the ECU, so fuel delivery to the other injectors wouldnt be affected.

Even if the ECU did know, the last thing itd do was add more to the other inj to compensate, as the injection is direct port so would do it no good.

I think someone got their wires crossed thats all, chinese whispers and all that.
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Old 27-04-2008, 22:50   #78 (permalink)
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Exactly, thats how all fuel pressure regulators work, and injectors are just solenoid valves so they dont know how many are working, neither does the ECU, so fuel delivery to the other injectors wouldnt be affected.

Even if the ECU did know, the last thing itd do was add more to the other inj to compensate, as the injection is direct port so would do it no good.

I think someone got their wires crossed thats all, chinese whispers and all that.
agreed one injector failing wouldnt cause the others to over compensate thats mental

and there isnt anything wrong with the strength of the std ca bottom end other than getting onto 20 years of abuse and shite oil. what do you expect?

sr spectacular failures and big end issues are becoming more and more common as they get old as well. its just age and abuse - simple.

the yb with smaller ports WILL generate more torque as inlet velocity helps torque a lot....thats why its quite common to put a restrictor behind throttle bodys to increase torque for tighter circuits in rallying smaller ports arent good for revving and top end though....as with anything its one or the other
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Old 27-04-2008, 23:06   #79 (permalink)
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pah thats rubbish ca's and sr's both have shite bottom ends. only fact that sr's are a bit newer and less abused at the mo.
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Old 27-04-2008, 23:16   #80 (permalink)
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pah thats rubbish ca's and sr's both have shite bottom ends. only fact that sr's are a bit newer and less abused at the mo.
I don't know of a CA that has a reliable 400hp at the fly on a totally standard block and head. (does not mean they don't exist, i just don't know of one)

There are SR's running 500+hp on totally standard bottom ends.
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