m3 or jap ? opinons please - Page 2 - Drifting forum

boo_kong · 25-06-2008, 22:56

Get a s13'
Perfect for drifting and parts are easy to come by.
If your going to drift your going to need parts at some point trust me :-)
Ask lightning' he had a drift ready s13 for sale not so long ago, donno if he still has tho.

robbs · 25-06-2008, 22:59

been having the same dialema (sp) myself recently as im going to be selling my e30 soon, m3 or back to jap turbo ? i've owned 3 e30's, and an e28 m535i, 2 s14's and and an r32 gts-t.
i test drove an r33 gts-t the other day gave it a couple of little drifts and now i've totally decided thats what im gonna go for as it drifted effortlessly in the dry compared to my bmw's (admitedly my e30's all had open diffs and the e28 had an old worn sport diff) and in my opinion jap RWD turbos just feel more right for the job to me

although i've never drifted an m3 although i have driven one.

cossiecrew · 25-06-2008, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stavros

Like Topi's got?

Yeah man, only S-body I really like these days, cool cars.

same front as topi but rears more like yours

Andy.w · 25-06-2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20vWill

My amaaaaaaaaaaazing 4-door drifty M3 may be for sale soon... black, buckets, welded diff, 300bhp, stainless exhaust, mechanically perfect, serviced, flared arches, MOT & tax, etc etc. Will be somewhere around £3500 depending on spec/wheels etc.

Much better and faster than any jap crap at similar money.

BUT...the repair costs are very expensive.....

LiGhTnInG · 25-06-2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by spin-king

Oh and as i wanted a ps13 i looked into it sweet cars good engine BUT understeer

Shite. What are you on about. You drunk?

JamesAE86 · 25-06-2008, 23:19

83 AE86 2 door coupe

Papercutout · 25-06-2008, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossiecrew

same front as topi but rears more like yours

Thats a PS13, Topi has a Sil80, which IMO looks better...

I'd get that M3 someone said might be fore sale soon. Oh you tramper through and through

spin-king · 25-06-2008, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiGhTnInG

Shite. What are you on about. You drunk?

Greg weston performance said his suffered plus read about it.

20vWill · 25-06-2008, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy.w

BUT...the repair costs are very expensive.....

Repair? Repair what? Look after your M3 with good, clean oil and treat it gently from cold and it will be bomb proof.

I've not had to repair anything on mine, apart from the crappy plastic rad mount clips. Amazing cars.

MJG · 25-06-2008, 23:57

As I said on the phone Mark just get whatever you want, although I'd say a cheap, slightly beat up s14 slammed on some dirty chromes with 15psi and a drain pipe exhaust will be just up your street, then relax in the coupe when you want to drive chilled out, no point in having 2x e36's.

You can drift perfectly competitively with an s14 and basic basic mods, and they aren't spethial "M" cars, just run of the mill bullshit nissans.

boo_kong · 25-06-2008, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by spin-king

Greg weston performance said his suffered plus read about it.

cat fight :-P

kiwithunder · 26-06-2008, 00:20

Add my 2 yen of worthlessness

Like most things depends on how seriously you want to get into drifting.From what most guys here tell me, S14 are the best to learn to drift but I`m no expert.I`m here in Japan where parts for Jap cars are extremely accessible, so factor in not only reliability, but parts prices and availibility.Power/weight ratio would be an interesting factor and turbo vs. NA platform.Either way, if you`re looking at investing most of the coin from selling your bikes you have plenty to get a good machine.Good luck and make sure either way you get all the bang for the buck that you can

mav · 26-06-2008, 06:44

Bang for buck has got to be Jap

cossiecrew · 26-06-2008, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJG

As I said on the phone Mark just get whatever you want, although I'd say a cheap, slightly beat up s14 slammed on some dirty chromes with 15psi and a drain pipe exhaust will be just up your street, then relax in the coupe when you want to drive chilled out, no point in having 2x e36's.

You can drift perfectly competitively with an s14 and basic basic mods, and they aren't spethial "M" cars, just run of the mill bullshit nissans.

lastnight you said go for the m3 lol i know its my choice you little bitch the problem is im struggling to choose

gaz_moose · 26-06-2008, 09:47

if it were me id buy an s14 for like £1500
some DW coilovers 800?
alignment arms 500
oil cooler £100
bigger radiator £100
air filter £50
exhaust £20 and £20 to mike the fabricator
and id put some subaru seats in it £100 and leave all the carpet and soundproof stuff in and a stereo mmmmmmm comfort
and some r32/r33 gtr wheels.

you got more chance of being busted driving this than what you do on a bike in d-town lol.

Daddy_D · 26-06-2008, 11:58

My estimate on a M3 will be along those prices:

M3 S50B30 - 2000-2500GBP (-500GBP for interior)
Coilovers - 600GBP
Rear camber arms - 100GBP
Poly bushing - 180GBP
X-Brace - 40GBP
Strut braces - 30+30GBP
Welded 188 open diff - 30GBP
Straight pipe exhaust - 20GBP (it's worth going single pipe)
Air filter - 40GBP
2 bucket seats - 100GBP (or 100 each for a better one)
Hydraulic handbrake - 50GBP
Steering rack spacers - 20GBP
Decent offset wheels - 200GBP

With this modifications you got yourself a drift ready car for about 3500GBP with the important parts fitted. Of course you can increase this budget more with a chip, stabilizer bars, adjustable top mounts, steering wheel, short shifter, brake hoses and pads, and so on. One thing you won't need to really touch on a M3 is the power. You can maybe try to make it as much responsive as you can (chip helps).

MJG · 26-06-2008, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossiecrew

lastnight you said go for the m3 lol i know its my choice you little bitch the problem is im struggling to choose

I said I'd probs go with the m3, but for you it would probably be better with the s14 and do what Mooseman Muicey J said.

s00045732 · 26-06-2008, 12:21

cant remember his name but anyone that seen the yellow m3 in rosegreen would be screaming m3 at you.... it was near standard bar welded diff i think and it was amazing!! dont think theres a huge difference in it only whether you want to follow the trend or be a bit different?!?.... den on the other hand trends are there for a reson you definatly no the jap way works good when so manys at it

stubb · 26-06-2008, 12:37

a two and a half grand M3 is probably going to need a fair few pennies throwing at it to get it up to scratch just in engine maintenance alone. i would have said nissan before but having a 328 and also seen how many times my mate has had to have his nissan engine out i think id prefer the german way, besides the more people that run them the sooner drift companies will get on the case making stuff for them , plus parts on old e36,s are pretty cheap now

cromwell · 26-06-2008, 14:31

jap all the way....m3=gay

wooo that rhymed. check me out

oh and if you buy an m3 you will need:

+

and you will basically look like a complete turd.

25-06-2008, 22:59	#22 (permalink)
robbs MANJI MAN Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FAREHAM (Almost-Portsmouth-ish) Posts: 3,733	been having the same dialema (sp) myself recently as im going to be selling my e30 soon, m3 or back to jap turbo ? i've owned 3 e30's, and an e28 m535i, 2 s14's and and an r32 gts-t. i test drove an r33 gts-t the other day gave it a couple of little drifts and now i've totally decided thats what im gonna go for as it drifted effortlessly in the dry compared to my bmw's (admitedly my e30's all had open diffs and the e28 had an old worn sport diff) and in my opinion jap RWD turbos just feel more right for the job to me although i've never drifted an m3 although i have driven one. Last edited by robbs : 25-06-2008 at 23:01.

26-06-2008, 14:31	#40 (permalink)
cromwell Yoddle Cleaner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks + Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,090	jap all the way....m3=gay wooo that rhymed. check me out oh and if you buy an m3 you will need: + and you will basically look like a complete turd. Last edited by cromwell : 26-06-2008 at 14:34.

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25-06-2008, 22:56	#21 (permalink)
boo_kong dorifto kingu! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: dartford Posts: 934	Get a s13' Perfect for drifting and parts are easy to come by. If your going to drift your going to need parts at some point trust me :-) Ask lightning' he had a drift ready s13 for sale not so long ago, donno if he still has tho.

25-06-2008, 23:19	#26 (permalink)
JamesAE86 dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 552	83 AE86 2 door coupe

25-06-2008, 23:57	#30 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,535	As I said on the phone Mark just get whatever you want, although I'd say a cheap, slightly beat up s14 slammed on some dirty chromes with 15psi and a drain pipe exhaust will be just up your street, then relax in the coupe when you want to drive chilled out, no point in having 2x e36's. You can drift perfectly competitively with an s14 and basic basic mods, and they aren't spethial "M" cars, just run of the mill bullshit nissans.

26-06-2008, 00:20	#32 (permalink)
kiwithunder speedfreak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Posts: 143	Add my 2 yen of worthlessness Like most things depends on how seriously you want to get into drifting.From what most guys here tell me, S14 are the best to learn to drift but I`m no expert.I`m here in Japan where parts for Jap cars are extremely accessible, so factor in not only reliability, but parts prices and availibility.Power/weight ratio would be an interesting factor and turbo vs. NA platform.Either way, if you`re looking at investing most of the coin from selling your bikes you have plenty to get a good machine.Good luck and make sure either way you get all the bang for the buck that you can

26-06-2008, 06:44	#33 (permalink)
mav dorifto kingu! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reading, Berkshire Posts: 842	Bang for buck has got to be Jap

26-06-2008, 09:47	#35 (permalink)
gaz_moose .MTM. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,125	if it were me id buy an s14 for like £1500 some DW coilovers 800? alignment arms 500 oil cooler £100 bigger radiator £100 air filter £50 exhaust £20 and £20 to mike the fabricator and id put some subaru seats in it £100 and leave all the carpet and soundproof stuff in and a stereo mmmmmmm comfort and some r32/r33 gtr wheels. you got more chance of being busted driving this than what you do on a bike in d-town lol.

26-06-2008, 11:58	#36 (permalink)
Daddy_D D1 street king Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,075	My estimate on a M3 will be along those prices: M3 S50B30 - 2000-2500GBP (-500GBP for interior) Coilovers - 600GBP Rear camber arms - 100GBP Poly bushing - 180GBP X-Brace - 40GBP Strut braces - 30+30GBP Welded 188 open diff - 30GBP Straight pipe exhaust - 20GBP (it's worth going single pipe) Air filter - 40GBP 2 bucket seats - 100GBP (or 100 each for a better one) Hydraulic handbrake - 50GBP Steering rack spacers - 20GBP Decent offset wheels - 200GBP With this modifications you got yourself a drift ready car for about 3500GBP with the important parts fitted. Of course you can increase this budget more with a chip, stabilizer bars, adjustable top mounts, steering wheel, short shifter, brake hoses and pads, and so on. One thing you won't need to really touch on a M3 is the power. You can maybe try to make it as much responsive as you can (chip helps).

26-06-2008, 12:21	#38 (permalink)
s00045732 doughnutter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: sligo, ireland Posts: 64	cant remember his name but anyone that seen the yellow m3 in rosegreen would be screaming m3 at you.... it was near standard bar welded diff i think and it was amazing!! dont think theres a huge difference in it only whether you want to follow the trend or be a bit different?!?.... den on the other hand trends are there for a reson you definatly no the jap way works good when so manys at it

26-06-2008, 12:37	#39 (permalink)
stubb tail slider Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the other side of oxford Posts: 95	a two and a half grand M3 is probably going to need a fair few pennies throwing at it to get it up to scratch just in engine maintenance alone. i would have said nissan before but having a 328 and also seen how many times my mate has had to have his nissan engine out i think id prefer the german way, besides the more people that run them the sooner drift companies will get on the case making stuff for them , plus parts on old e36,s are pretty cheap now