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Old 05-01-2010, 13:44   #21 (permalink)
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stupid Q but EDC is european drift, so is there any events in europe like france for instance?
Britian is in Europe.
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Old 14-01-2010, 22:09   #22 (permalink)
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yeah, so its still only britain, would name BDC 2 or BDC invitational

if its europen, should go around a little, like King of Europe.
WE NEED SOME QUALITY DRIFTING IN THE CONTINENT

dont tell me the IDC/IDS... there is anything but quality.
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Old 15-01-2010, 15:54   #23 (permalink)
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yeah, so its still only britain, would name BDC 2 or BDC invitational

if its europen, should go around a little, like King of Europe.
WE NEED SOME QUALITY DRIFTING IN THE CONTINENT

dont tell me the IDC/IDS... there is anything but quality.
i think last year or the year before they went to europe for a round
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didnt heard about it, missed.
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Old 18-01-2010, 16:17   #25 (permalink)
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yeah theyve been to poland i think ...

any news yet then its been the autosport but ive not heard any "interesting" news??
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Old 18-01-2010, 16:22   #26 (permalink)
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We did the 2008 EDC finals in Poland @ Pozan, Then a Top 16 event with 8 of the best from the EDC finals, and the 8 best from Polish/Dutch Pro Championship. They also had their finals the same weekend.
Pozan is an amazing drift track, very high speed with a massive mangi to link the straight into the course. If it was run backwards would be crazy!
EDC guys are off to Spain for a Demo this week, maybe "interesting" news after that?
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Old 18-01-2010, 16:45   #27 (permalink)
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yeah theyve been to poland i think ...

any news yet then its been the autosport but ive not heard any "interesting" news??
As its me that said that, then I'll answer.
No, there isn't any at the moment, the guys were far, far busier than expected at the show and as said, are off to Spain this week so will be working on it when they're back.
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Old 18-01-2010, 17:14   #28 (permalink)
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Maybe there in for a rebrand EDC= English Drift Championship
English Drivers/English Tracks?? Far from a proper european series

No sign of it on modified live stand at autosport either?
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Old 18-01-2010, 17:34   #29 (permalink)
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Do you know what, I can't be arsed discussing on here anymore, so it's cheerio from me and I hope to see some of you at the events.
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Old 18-01-2010, 18:18   #30 (permalink)
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Maybe there in for a rebrand EDC= English Drift Championship
English Drivers/English Tracks?? Far from a proper european series

No sign of it on modified live stand at autosport either?
you got the point.
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Old 18-01-2010, 18:25   #31 (permalink)
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Do you know what, I can't be arsed discussing on here anymore, so it's cheerio from me and I hope to see some of you at the events.
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well what do you expect when the promoters cant be bothered to put up info up here or interesting news on there series
maybe they have not many drivers left
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hopefully in this year, some of the Hungarian drivers can show up on a UK event, but that will be most likely an other race. dunno how you guys work together or you are rivals, dont wanna name that.

but there is no chance to get in all the races... "we" travel all around, we've been Spain, Holland, Germany, Czech, Slovakia, Serbia, Romania and Greece...
I know King Of Europe is not the best quality of drifting, but they are travel, they are really european. maybe you might think about do a REAL EUROPEAN DRIFT CHAMPIONSHIP, and show quality drifting all over europe.

dont wanna "attack" you, just think about.
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Old 18-01-2010, 21:25   #33 (permalink)
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well what do you expect when the promoters cant be bothered to put up info up here or interesting news on there series
maybe they have not many drivers left
We are in talks with drivers entering so the interesting news is between us and them at the mo - you fans have got the dates at this point in time and thats all you need to know really so hang fire and any interesting news will eventually filter out

The EDC demo in the Autosport Live Action arena last weekend was top stuff and once again promoted Drifting to a massive and varied audience at a pro level which is always good.

We didnt hold last year (and arent holding for this year) any mainland europe events but we are not about to change our brand name at this stage because 2011 may possibly be different.

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... not about to change our brand name at this stage because 2011 may possibly be different.

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cheers for that!
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you fans have got the dates at this point in time and thats all you need to know really so hang fire and any interesting news will eventually filter out

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Im sorry Glen but that to me is offensive and very rude, so your saying any driver posting on this thread who you are not in talks with are "fans"! How can you come out with a comment like that!! Its highly unprofesional and childish IMO!! I take it you dont want any new drivers in EDC ever!! Il be pissing my pants when you have all these tracks and all these sponsors and you only have a hand full of drivers, youl look stupid! Especailly as you bank on the drifting bringing in most the crowds at modified live! I knew the othe day when i see you at Autosport i was not welcome any more as you bearly stopped to say hello.

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well, thats you told. lol
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Old 20-01-2010, 18:48   #37 (permalink)
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Im sorry Glen but that to me is offensive and very rude, so your saying any driver posting on this thread who you are not in talks with are "fans"! How can you come out with a comment like that!! Its highly unprofesional and childish IMO!! I take it you dont want any new drivers in EDC ever!! Il be pissing my pants when you have all these tracks and all these sponsors and you only have a hand full of drivers, youl look stupid! Especailly as you bank on the drifting bringing in most the crowds at modified live! I knew the othe day when i see you at Autosport i was not welcome any more as you bearly stopped to say hello.

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Well this is an interesting post and I feel that with respects a reply is due so as to put a perspective on your post, normarily I would ignore such a response but I will reply constructively as it's for the common good.

You were welcomed onto the stand by Alec who spent a lot of time talking with you, I was tied up and could not break away when Alec came over - this happened a lot over the weekend with people wanting to talk with us on the stand. What I find even stranger is that I said hello to you when I saw you on the stand and we even shook hands and said goodbye when you were leaving! Perhaps I missed something Paul but from our (the teams) perspectives you and your friends were treated very courteously throughout your time on the stand and never once were you made to feel unwelcome or uncomfortable! Other drivers visited the stand over the weekend who want to compete with EDC and they returned if either myself or Andy were busy - as did many other industry people, drivers, fans etc., and vice versa for us going to other stands, it's the nature of shows that big.

As for your being a driver in EDC, well it has never been in doubt from previous posts and comments that you did not wish to drive in EDC 2010 so I took it as read that an invitation would have been pointless or was I supposed to read between the lines that you actually did want to as I do not have time for mixed signals or trying to understand peoples whims, sorry!

We have drivers entered for 2010 and the championship is not about how many drivers but a balance between numbers, quality and the amount of time we have to run the Drift sessions. Just because we don't have a full day filled with Drift doesnt mean our dedication to it, our enthusiasm or our wish to do the right thing is in question or going in the wrong direction, quite the opposite, we see 'our business model' as working in the direction we wish to take it after running top level Drift events for 5 years and it's as simple as that. We knew from 2009 that a few drivers would perhaps prefer to not run with us for differing reasons and that's fine as we were moving direction anyway. We show Drift to a phenomenal amount of people throughout the year(s) and just becasue we are not JDM tight does not mean we operate Drift any less professionally than anyone else and infact go out of our way to ensure the standards are kept high, ok we all trip from time to time but overall I am pleased with how we and Drift have and are perceived. Their is an underlying trend to knock EDC at every opportunity and suprisingly it comes from within the scene - strange but true the fact is elements of scene we support and love is attacked by some of those within it without just reason, this can only mean they have a cause that's not directly related to supporting Drifting directly but for personal gain - work it out eh as I know I have

Contrary to popular belief on here (and people believing there own hype) the Modifed Live Shows do not survive or rely on Drifting for them to be a success, ML are stand alone and the market research at the events has proven this, Drift is sort of interesting to some, a pain in the butt for some and a must have for others but overall the response to it is good and its and audience outside of hardcore Drifters which is a good thing for the whole scene, I mean who else takes Drift to such a varied audience and still gets knocked for it - us!

The EDC Santa Pod events and stand alone Drift events have probably the least amount of spectators of any events I know, an answer is their if people look. Fingers crossed spectators increase for stand alone Drift events as I would love to go back to the days when we had 9 hours of track time and had practice, qualifying and top 16.

And last but not least Paul you have always been treated with respect and fairly by EDC when you competed, I (or any of the team) have never given you reason to dislike me/us or have good cause to talk us down as you do, I can only think their are underlying issues out their as your outburst is unfounded and downright rude. Again I am at a loss as to understand where exactly you are coming from as I can only see that you have been treated well whilst with us and every time I have seen you at either the events or out of them!

Oh and the remark about fans was aimed at fans!

I'm thick skinned so I'll take the fcuk you as you mean you are in love with me and want to have my babies

Anyway, time to move on........


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Maybe there in for a rebrand EDC= English Drift Championship
English Drivers/English Tracks?? Far from a proper european series

No sign of it on modified live stand at autosport either?

not everyone in the EDC is English! and knockhill is in scotland lol
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Il be pissing my pants when you have all these tracks and all these sponsors and you only have a hand full of drivers, youl look stupid! Especailly as you bank on the drifting bringing in most the crowds at modified live! I knew the othe day when i see you at Autosport i was not welcome any more as you bearly stopped to say hello.

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I hope you were pissed when you wrote that Paul? otherwise you just dropped way way low to anyone reading it. Surely your ego isn't so fragile that you behave like this after not getting a call?

Why would you be pissing your pants if that happens anyway? not drifting on the best race tracks in the country is hardly a reason to be merry? Would you rather be drifting at half the speed somewhere else??

Like myself you've been very lucky last year in being able to take advantage of the lack of drivers and get a place to drive on these tracks with way more seat time than you'd get in normal circumstances. Your driving will have progressed at twice the speed it would have otherwise. It would have taken us at least another year to get to the level we're driving at now if we hadn't been driving these tracks.

Regardless of any other politics, you'd be lucky to get half the seat time you've had last year at any other championship that manages to run events at the big race tracks.

There may not be too many big fish in this sea last year but like me you're a small one and certainly dont have the skills or experience to be throwing your teddies around like that.

Really dont know what you think it would achieve?
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Thanks for your reply Glen. Yes you are right, i was treated very well in 09, i never doubted that. Infact, i thoght i was treated well right up untill the point you made that post. I dont know what you think iv got to prove? There is no other reason to my out burst other than my anger at that comment and the total lack of coms. The ONLY reason i do not want to compete in EDC this year is coz of the lack of coms and the format. How is any one suppose to make plans for the year when they have no information. I know the dates wer up, thats not the issue, its all the rumers as to the format. With no clarification or comments from EDC. Im not doing this on a big budget, infact like a lot of people im busting a gut and getting in debt to do what i love, im not going to spend all m blood swet and tears on some thing i dont know wether its going to happen, or if im even entitaled to drive in any more. Not to mention trying to negotiate with sponsors about the year ahead when there is so much speculation and rumers floating about.
Maybe i did over step the line and yea i had had a few, but im not going back on what i wrote or editing it as i dont regret it and i still feel the same about it.(appart fromt he last bit maybe)
I feel as a "driver" iv been let down, some simple updates would have been enough.

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I hope you were pissed when you wrote that Paul? otherwise you just dropped way way low to anyone reading it. Surely your ego isn't so fragile that you behave like this after not getting a call?

Why would you be pissing your pants if that happens anyway? not drifting on the best race tracks in the country is hardly a reason to be merry? Would you rather be drifting at half the speed somewhere else??

Like myself you've been very lucky last year in being able to take advantage of the lack of drivers and get a place to drive on these tracks with way more seat time than you'd get in normal circumstances. Your driving will have progressed at twice the speed it would have otherwise. It would have taken us at least another year to get to the level we're driving at now if we hadn't been driving these tracks.

Regardless of any other politics, you'd be lucky to get half the seat time you've had last year at any other championship that manages to run events at the big race tracks.

There may not be too many big fish in this sea last year but like me you're a small one and certainly dont have the skills or experience to be throwing your teddies around like that.

Really dont know what you think it would achieve?

IMO the fun in EDC was lost when quallification was dropped, it dose not feel like proper drifting to me, more like a show, there is too much pressure to get every thing done in time to make it enjoyable. Yea the fast tracks wer great fun and a plesure to do but the format sucked in 09 and ruined it for me.
Id rather do the small tracks, with loads of seat time and enjoy drifting as a hole.

Regarding your comment on the seat time. JDM at Silverstone/Trax we had over double the track time we did with EDC and over double the number of drivers. The seat time in 09 was a joke too(i know, sole event no big tracks bla bla) the only track i could enjoy and relax at in 09 with EDC was Knockhill but thats mainly as we had practice over 2 days and loads more seat time than any other round.

Im not going to comment about this on here any more, Glen you have my email address. I feel this is doing no one any favors(including me), just venting my feelings out loud as too many people keep it locked up. I know im not the only one who feels this way.
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