No fwd converted to rear wheel drive!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stavros]

RWD Converted Focus's etc just use a Cossie floorpan and running gear, perfectly safe, perfectly cheap.

Would be nice to see other stuff barring hordes of Skylines and S-Bodys, thats for sure, IF there was a driver good enough.

UKDC are allowing them anyhow arnt they?

[sideways.taff]

I wanna turn the cheap and tatty Renault Laguna I have on the drive into a RWD BTCC lookalike beasty... and I reckon it'd be a damn sight safer than some cars I've seen...

[superclarkey]

before we know it we will have people turning up in gokarts and the skylines/s-bodys will be out lawed of fear of runing them over... lol

I can see it now.

[mazdachris]

It would certainly bring new meaning to the term 'sudden death'

[junior]

Originally Posted by mazdachris

It would certainly bring new meaning to the term 'sudden death'

And now for the knockout round eh ?

[DavidRuston]

UKDC Regs:

1-2. All vehicles must be rear wheel drive only, however conversions a from 4x4 and Front wheel are allowed.

[hashiriya]

I still think tht frnot wheel drive should be allowed. i think some of the top level F-dori is pretty cool

[Stavros]

Originally Posted by sideways.taff

I wanna turn the cheap and tatty Renault Laguna I have on the drive into a RWD BTCC lookalike beasty... and I reckon it'd be a damn sight safer than some cars I've seen...

Theres already been one with a twin turbo rover v8 engine in it.

Looked the tits, even when he had an "interesting" paint job done (which would work on a drift car).

This is nothing to do with westfield type, spaceframe stuff, and go-karts, but RWD converted FWD cars can be cool, breaks up the hordes of same old shit.

But they allowed in UKDC, so happy days

[Andrew Strang]

To the people who say it is not safe true some conversions maybe be poorly done but is that not what the safety checks are there for? Could they not possibly say the cars have to be certified by someone to make sure they are 100 percent safe as my dads focus is a pukka car converted by Steve Scott of A1 rally sports a highly respected ford tuner not some bodge job?

[arry]

Originally Posted by Andrew Strang

To the people who say it is not safe true some conversions maybe be poorly done but is that not what the safety checks are there for? Could they not possibly say the cars have to be certified by someone to make sure they are 100 percent safe as my dads focus is a pukka car not some bodge job?

To be fair it'd be an absolute nightmare to scrutinise cars THAT closely during events and getting the car "certified" wouldn't be an easy option either as a) who'd want to put their name down that a car they'd checked and certified ok which gets used for some very heavy driving wasn't going to fall to bits and b) even if it was certified, who's "certificate" is up to standard required by the organisers or more importantly their PL insurers?

It's just one of those unfortunate things, oh well - plenty of RWD cars to use eh.

[Andrew Strang]

Originally Posted by cookwibble

tell you what, if you think the rules are so stupid why dont you try coming up with your own?

bet they would be exactly the same except for:

Rule 13b: My dads rwd converted focus is allowed so there

No the only rule i would change is that any rwd car should be allowed providing it meets safety requierments and is not a spaceframe.

[sideways.taff]

Originally Posted by Stavros

Theres already been one with a twin turbo rover v8 engine in it.

Looked the tits, even when he had an "interesting" paint job done (which would work on a drift car).

This is nothing to do with westfield type shitboxes, spaceframe stuff, and go-karts, but RWD converted FWD cars can be cool, breaks up the hordes of same old shit.

But they allowed in UKDC, so happy days

Twin, front mounted bike engine Renault Laguna it is then!! Now that would be interesting..

[Dori Edd]

Quad bike engined, nitro fuelled Skoda Octavia, with luggage rack

[SteveDunn]

So what you're basically saying is, that you want the rules of the top level of UK drifting changed, just so your dad can have a go? Noone else is really effected by it at all...

How about your dad has a go at one of the competitions further down the chain to see if its worth all this whinging and moaning?

[Avar]

Originally Posted by turbo-tastic

As said above, it'd be full of things like Locosts with super quick rack steering and massive amounts of lock, weighing 400-500kgs and 300bhp.

There are factory made JDM cars that almost fit that description just have to keep your eye's open , just a pig getting drift parts and a bigger pig maintaining large drift angle.

[Andrew Strang]

Well when my dad was building the car we contacted d1 regarding the legality and they said it was fine now they say its illegal seems fair to me!!!

[jonnydiscopants]

iirc, there is a video option dvd from the states with a rwd integra type r in the driver search for D1!!!!

[kieran_e1]

Originally Posted by Andrew Strang

Well when my dad was building the car we contacted d1 regarding the legality and they said it was fine now they say its illegal seems fair to me!!!

d1 japan or d1gb as d1gb rules have always stated now fwd-> rwd conversions

[ringer]

Correct me if I'm wroing here... Isn't a Caterham with 300bhp going to be a total pig to drift? Surely you need some decent weight or insane entry speeds?

[scrutineer]

Originally Posted by Andrew Strang

Well when my dad was building the car we contacted d1 regarding the legality and they said it was fine now they say its illegal seems fair to me!!!

Well Mr Andrew Strang!! if your are going to make accusations like that at least have the common sense to get your facts right!!

the 2006 regs clearly stated:
"front wheel drive cars or cars made originally as front wheel drive may not be used in any form"


secondly IF you think a rule is unfair it is not the sensible way to change it by going on a public forum and saying the rule is "stupid " which by implication means those that set the rule are also stupid??

We worked very hard to try to get a set of rules with the interests of the majority in mind not one person with a narrow attitude.
Where I've been aproached about rules that some though were unfair , its been discussed and in some cases if justified they have been changed