3rd part perspective.

[kieran_e1]

Firstly this is not a dig more constructive feedback i received from a third party source. This person is very influential in Scottish Motorsport and gives a good perspective on how others outside our community view the sport.

We know how hard Glen , Andy , Clash et al work to produce these shows but i thought a viewpoint of an industry person would be interesting

Originally Posted by head honcho dude in scotland

I have to admit that Drifting has never been brought up in our discussions, and plainly, that has been an omission – perhaps because we know very little about it. As it happens, I was watching a programme of Drifting from Knockhill a week or so ago– no doubt I was watching you! I don’t think the programme did much to foster the sport in that it was extremely difficult to identify the competitors one from the other, and I had absolutely no understanding as to how the judging was done. There is no doubt that considerable skill and talent are needed, and that, like all forms of the sport from cruising to F1, a great deal of pleasure is derived by the participants

thoughts and viewpoints?

[Jord]

I've noted one of these points myself after watching the Knockhill coverage.

90% of the time the driver/car shown on screen is not the driver/car the commentator is talking about. If you didn't know the competitors fairly well it was very easy to get lost/confused.

This is more an issue with the commentator on the programme [which has been mentioned countless times before] rather than any organisation or structure of events, which I think is done flawlessly and has improved each and every year.

[docwra]

Originally Posted by kieran_e1

thoughts and viewpoints?

Same as before, but blunter - the EDC TV programme is pretty rubbish and does next to nothing for the sport at all.

Those are the exact same comments my missus made when I tried to make her watch it.

Get him to watch the Prodrive one and see the difference

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Jord

This is more an issue with the commentator on the programme [which has been mentioned countless times before] rather than any organisation or structure of events, which I think is done flawlessly and has improved each and every year.

Exactly

[kieran_e1]

Originally Posted by Jord

This is more an issue with the commentator on the programme [which has been mentioned countless times before] rather than any organisation or structure of events, which I think is done flawlessly and has improved each and every year.

i absolutely agree with you there Jord. it's just that it seems a shame to have all that hard work's impact blunted , especially to those who matter within the motorsport community

[DC@Driftpromotion]

I agree to that too, I don't think there is much more that can be done on the media perspective. I mean, looking at the guys comments above, he's not paying attention to other motorsports either, its just the fact that you know most of the well known drivers in other sports anyway + the rules....
I mean, they don't explain the rules of F1 every times its on TV and with some sports like Champcar etc, you can only recognise most different cars through the sponsoring stickers if they have the same color.

Better still, in drifting (EDC) all cars as far as i can see have a totally different color scheme, if he's such a motorsports man, how can he NOT tell the difference between cars?? I find that hard to believe.... but it's probably how it was filmed or something.

But Jord you are right, I think the commentator Sucks too haha, i just need to laugh when i hear his voice on the films of EDC plus the french series.

[Glen]

So for each 21-23 minute programme I think I get overall what you guys want from this and previous posts:

1. Coverage for everyone
2. A season so far and background breakdown
3. A beginners guide to Drifting
3. An explanation of judging

Ok well thats taken up at least 15-20 minutes then

Or alternatively should we have an absolutely non championship related 'lets follow Andy and Glen around and see where they are travelling from/to' for 15 minutes and then pack in the event into the final 6-8 minutes.

EVERYONE generally sees and wants something different from the programmes and if a group of people say they want A another group will want B or another one C, its just the way it goes.

And rest assured the majority on here is actually the minority when it comes to having feedback. People that have absolutely no idea of what Drifting is are not tainted by anyones 'ideals' of what Drift is and how it 'should' look from there eyes, these people make up there own minds and they like it

Dont get too drawn Kieran by an 'industry person' perspectives as I've been around enough of these types to understand they sometimes dont actually have our best interests at heart, did he/she actually come to Knockhill then and speak with all concerned etc., etc., as these are the positive types?

[kieran_e1]

Originally Posted by Glen

So for each 21-23 minute programme I think I get overall what you guys want from this and previous posts:

1. Coverage for everyone
2. A season so far and background breakdown
3. A beginners guide to Drifting
3. An explanation of judging

Ok well thats taken up at least 15-20 minutes then

Or alternatively should we have an absolutely non championship related 'lets follow Andy and Glen around and see where they are travelling from/to' for 15 minutes and then pack in the event into the final 6-8 minutes.

EVERYONE generally sees and wants something different from the programmes and if a group of people say they want A another group will want B or another one C, its just the way it goes.

And rest assured the majority on here is actually the minority when it comes to having feedback. People that have absolutely no idea of what Drifting is are not tainted by anyones 'ideals' of what Drift is and how it 'should' look from there eyes, these people make up there own minds and they like it

Dont get too drawn Kieran by an 'industry person' perspectives as I've been around enough of these types to understand they sometimes dont actually have our best interests at heart, did he/she actually come to Knockhill then and speak with all concerned etc., etc., as these are the positive types?

no they weren't at the event themselves. Glen and thats probably why he didn't quite "get" it if you like but he seems very keen to learn more about drifting and there are a few initiatives happening in scotland for motorsport in general and I'm trying to keep drifitng in their minds when facilities are being discussed

[Glen]

Originally Posted by kieran_e1

no they weren't at the event themselves. Glen and thats probably why he didn't quite "get" it if you like but he seems very keen to learn more about drifting and there are a few initiatives happening in scotland for motorsport in general and I'm trying to keep drifitng in their minds when facilities are being discussed

Pleased you clarified that, thanks.