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Keefe · 12-06-2006, 13:35

Shit. I'm running a Nikon F60 and its only got 80mm zoom

bugger...

cranky · 13-06-2006, 00:25

Apparently mine has a 36 - 432 mm zoom, so is this ok then as I was looking at getting a 3.2x lens

Brooksie · 13-06-2006, 00:37

what camera/lens do you have dude ?

Ross .. hope you're well m8 .. I have a Sigma 55-200mm .. should be in the in-field hopefully this weekend, do you think i'll get away with that ?

steve

Ross · 13-06-2006, 08:31

hi steve, i gone back through my pics from last year and looked at the exifs from differnt positions on the track, and turned it into a confusing diagram of what focal length i was using

the red lines are where you can shoot from and a rough guide to focal length for a full frame shot.

55-200mm should give you loads of posible shots.

cranky · 13-06-2006, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooksie

what camera/lens do you have dude ?

Ross .. hope you're well m8 .. I have a Sigma 55-200mm .. should be in the in-field hopefully this weekend, do you think i'll get away with that ?

steve

I've got the H2 on this page,

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06...sch5.asp#press

Couldn't really afford an SLR and this was at a rather tempting price in the states

It'll do for now i'm just hoping the zoom will be sufficient for sunday

Ross · 13-06-2006, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranky

It'll do for now i'm just hoping the zoom will be sufficient for sunday

it should be more than enough focal length for silverstone

Brooksie · 13-06-2006, 11:42

thats a cracking post .. thanks for the info Ross

now next little question ... i'd like to try some very wide angle shots in the pits at some point in the future. Whilst i don't want a full on fish eye lens i would like some distortion .. just wondering if you've tried any shots with 20mm lens or similar ? ..

cranky · 13-06-2006, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

it should be more than enough focal length for silverstone

Thats good to know cheers, in regards to panning as i'm going to be in the stands or behind the fences are there any general speeds/settings I should be using or is it better to let the camera decide?

Ross · 13-06-2006, 11:58

yeah, ive got a 15-30 sigma i like using for statics (gives some strange effects for action aswell if you can get close enough mitch's sig pic was done with it) i like it you can focus realy close and still get the full subject with out the general strangeness of a full on fish eye

this was done at 15mm well 16.6mm with digital correction i think

Ross · 13-06-2006, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranky

Thats good to know cheers, in regards to panning as i'm going to be in the stands or behind the fences are there any general speeds/settings I should be using or is it better to let the camera decide?

i wouldnt let the camera decide they have a nasty habit of just freezing stuff with default sport modes, just find a comfortable shutter speed say 1/250 and work down from there till youve got a happy balence between sharpness in the body and blur in the wheels, if you use a shutter priority mode the camera will work out the apeture for the correct exposure and give you somthing less to worry about.

cranky · 13-06-2006, 12:09

Nice one cheers

Keefe · 13-06-2006, 12:20

I've got 80mm zoom so am i going to get ANY decent shots at Silverstone? bearing in mind i'll be up in the stands, i'm guessing not

Brooksie · 13-06-2006, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

yeah, ive got a 15-30 sigma i like using for statics (gives some strange effects for action aswell if you can get close enough mitch's sig pic was done with it) i like it you can focus realy close and still get the full subject with out the general strangeness of a full on fish eye

this was done at 15mm well 16.6mm with digital correction i think

once again Ross .. thanks dude

..

Was that a studio shoot you did ? ..

Ross · 13-06-2006, 12:24

yeah mrs p was doing the shoot i just tagged along to see what happened in a studio

Ed. · 13-06-2006, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keefe

I've got 80mm zoom so am i going to get ANY decent shots at Silverstone? bearing in mind i'll be up in the stands, i'm guessing not

Well if you accepted the generous price that was offered to you for a 300mm lens,you would be able to. People dont hand stuff out to strangers on plates

Keefe · 13-06-2006, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed.

Well if you accepted the generous price that was offered to you for a 300mm lens,you would be able to. People dont hand stuff out to strangers on plates

Yeah alright duck chill out. Don't think i'll be able to afford to buy it off you before Sunday anyway, this trip is gonna rape me for petrol and buying stuff etc.

Ross · 13-06-2006, 14:03

ed......... dude, dont!

cranky · 14-06-2006, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranky

Apparently mine has a 36 - 432 mm zoom, so is this ok?

Just been reading up on a few sites and apparently my camera only has this zoom in 35mm focal length, what the hell does that mean??

Mart · 14-06-2006, 22:59

I was going to say something earlier about that - its to do with how the size of your imaging sensor inside the camera affects the effective focal length of the lenses you are using. The sensors in film cameras (35mm) are larger than most digi's, which use a number of different size sensors. The sensors in Nikon bodies effectively cause a crop factor of 1.5. This means that a 300mm lens on our bodies behaves like a 450mm lens on a film camera

. This also means that an ultra wide 18mm lens is really only 27mm on our cameras

.

So when Ross was indicating what focal lengths he was using, you'd have to multiply them by 1.5 to get a camparison to your camera focal range (when expressed in 35mm terms).

But with your focal length range you're still covered.

cranky · 20-06-2006, 18:34

Ok so now i've had a crack at taking some pictures my major fault seems to be focus and sharpness,

so say that i'm taking some more pictures from the stands again using full zoom would it be better to try and set the focus manually so that I don't have to wait for the auto focus to happen and then take the picture?

I was mainly using the flexible spot AF so that I could try and get them in focus at the side of the screen, is this the wrong way to do it?

Also my pictures seem to be lacking brightness/colour/sharpness is this just down to using the full zoom or is it again a focus issue?

13-06-2006, 08:31	#204 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	hi steve, i gone back through my pics from last year and looked at the exifs from differnt positions on the track, and turned it into a confusing diagram of what focal length i was using the red lines are where you can shoot from and a rough guide to focal length for a full frame shot. 55-200mm should give you loads of posible shots. Last edited by Ross : 13-06-2006 at 09:42.

14-06-2006, 22:59	#219 (permalink)
Mart touge runner Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 222	I was going to say something earlier about that - its to do with how the size of your imaging sensor inside the camera affects the effective focal length of the lenses you are using. The sensors in film cameras (35mm) are larger than most digi's, which use a number of different size sensors. The sensors in Nikon bodies effectively cause a crop factor of 1.5. This means that a 300mm lens on our bodies behaves like a 450mm lens on a film camera . This also means that an ultra wide 18mm lens is really only 27mm on our cameras . So when Ross was indicating what focal lengths he was using, you'd have to multiply them by 1.5 to get a camparison to your camera focal range (when expressed in 35mm terms). But with your focal length range you're still covered. Last edited by Mart : 14-06-2006 at 23:05.

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12-06-2006, 13:35	#201 (permalink)
Keefe 'Kin Whallin's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Holmfirth Posts: 1,940	Shit. I'm running a Nikon F60 and its only got 80mm zoom bugger...

13-06-2006, 00:25	#202 (permalink)
cranky dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Creweski Posts: 1,506	Apparently mine has a 36 - 432 mm zoom, so is this ok then as I was looking at getting a 3.2x lens

13-06-2006, 00:37	#203 (permalink)
Brooksie AJP V8 POWAAAA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wearing a lid, keeping my head down, running and wanting to come the frick home Posts: 1,650	what camera/lens do you have dude ? Ross .. hope you're well m8 .. I have a Sigma 55-200mm .. should be in the in-field hopefully this weekend, do you think i'll get away with that ? steve

13-06-2006, 11:42	#207 (permalink)
Brooksie AJP V8 POWAAAA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wearing a lid, keeping my head down, running and wanting to come the frick home Posts: 1,650	thats a cracking post .. thanks for the info Ross now next little question ... i'd like to try some very wide angle shots in the pits at some point in the future. Whilst i don't want a full on fish eye lens i would like some distortion .. just wondering if you've tried any shots with 20mm lens or similar ? ..

13-06-2006, 11:58	#209 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	yeah, ive got a 15-30 sigma i like using for statics (gives some strange effects for action aswell if you can get close enough mitch's sig pic was done with it) i like it you can focus realy close and still get the full subject with out the general strangeness of a full on fish eye this was done at 15mm well 16.6mm with digital correction i think

13-06-2006, 12:09	#211 (permalink)
cranky dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Creweski Posts: 1,506	Nice one cheers

13-06-2006, 12:20	#212 (permalink)
Keefe 'Kin Whallin's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Holmfirth Posts: 1,940	I've got 80mm zoom so am i going to get ANY decent shots at Silverstone? bearing in mind i'll be up in the stands, i'm guessing not

13-06-2006, 12:24	#214 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	yeah mrs p was doing the shoot i just tagged along to see what happened in a studio

13-06-2006, 14:03	#217 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	ed......... dude, dont!

20-06-2006, 18:34	#220 (permalink)
cranky dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Creweski Posts: 1,506	Ok so now i've had a crack at taking some pictures my major fault seems to be focus and sharpness, so say that i'm taking some more pictures from the stands again using full zoom would it be better to try and set the focus manually so that I don't have to wait for the auto focus to happen and then take the picture? I was mainly using the flexible spot AF so that I could try and get them in focus at the side of the screen, is this the wrong way to do it? Also my pictures seem to be lacking brightness/colour/sharpness is this just down to using the full zoom or is it again a focus issue?