Photo Techniques - Page 15 - Drifting forum

stuntmonkey · 31-07-2007, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo-tastic

Thumbs up from me too chap

i will remember you when im rich and famous guys

...

lol...

i wish!

sambo · 14-10-2007, 23:12

Hey guys, just looking for some general tips - had my first bash with an SLR the other day, mostly shot at 1/60 or 1/40 but I didn't really know what I was doing... Any advice for getting more of the car in focus, or anything else? Example of what I mean:

Borrowed a Canon D400 but I'm not sure on the lens, it's a Canon one from the mid 90's and seems pretty good. Couple of other samples:

(Only photoshopping was a bit of cropping and the odd little increase of brightness/contrast, was a very dull day)

Cheers

DevilsTower · 14-10-2007, 23:40

Should chill a bit on the shutter speed, set it to about 1/80-1/120, that should do the trick

Edit: O crap, wrong thread.

somac · 18-10-2007, 08:31

i think the trick is to increase the amount of DOF, and the longer lens the less curvy the sharp DOF area:

rest are here.

greetings,
Endre

MarcinGFX · 19-10-2007, 21:22

1/40 and 1/60 is impressive, but the good/blurred ratio at the end of the day is not really good enough in most cases. With those speeds it's rather hard to get the car more in focus.

From dragracing which I cover a lot in Santa Pod, when you have fast moving vehicles I always aim to focus at the middle of the car/bike. I use 1 point focus but you could play around with more... the problem you will get is that with AI Servo autofocus, when you'll have more than 1 point, the camera might re-focus on something that will get caught in one of the points and you will loose sharpness on your target

Depends really what is the situation....when you have a head-on situation...naturally you will aim to front bumper...and so on and on...

I think it's a matter of practice. I started off from 1/1000 with compact Olympus ;P and now I'm going down to 1/80, but mostly around 120 as DevilsTower advised. No need to get lower as you will only increase number of photos to delete...unless you don't drink at all and your hand is as stable as Manfrotto tripod ;P (whisper: or you have tons of cash and can afford lenses with image stabilizers)

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Marcin

sambo · 19-10-2007, 22:05

Thanks dudes, will give that a shot next time

I pretty much just took a guess at what speed would be best to start off on given that I've read about Ross etc. shooting at 1/8

A few pints to steady my hands up might be in order next time

Ross · 22-10-2007, 10:10

marcin has hit the nail on the head there is no real trick to panning shots its pretty much all practice, i would also add that your stance is very important! standing feet together holding the camera like a rabbit eating a carrot will never work, you should have your feet apart with one hand supporting the lens and the other supporting the body there is no need for any "white knuckle hanging on for dear life" gripping of the camera just let it rest in your hands. Plan your shot and try to read the track ie, is there any bumps? is the subject going to be moving away or coming towards you? then plan exactly where in your arc you want the shot taken, you should start your pan way before your pre determined "shoot point" and carry on panning after you have taken your shots, personally i dont like just holding the shutter down and filling the buffer i normally shoot in bursts of 3 this may just be down to personal technique.

As for image stabilizers.............for statics great.......for panning you gain very very little from them.

sambo · 23-10-2007, 16:35

Cheers Ross, good advice

Will have another bash at Crail next time and see how I get on with skidding cars

T.K · 23-10-2007, 17:49

Some of the shots on this thread are incredible. fricking awesome guys!

Ragz2009 · 23-10-2007, 23:57

I Only Use A Old Fuji s602z But I Do Come Up With Some Ok Shots Im Just Having Probs With Low Light Shots And Setting The Cam Up For Nights So Any Tips Would Be Good

Here Is Some Of My Ones I Like

Ross · 25-10-2007, 09:07

[quote=Ragz2009;564257]I Only Use A Old Fuji s602z But I Do Come Up With Some Ok Shots Im Just Having Probs With Low Light Shots And Setting The Cam Up For Nights So Any Tips Would Be Good

night time and low light.................basicly its bloody hard to get good results, depending on what light you have you are looking at high iso and impossibly low shutter speeds, you could invest in a decent flash and experiment with flash sync but tbh im totaly stumped with night stuff.

MarcinGFX · 25-10-2007, 21:51

Ross...image stabilizer does help in panning photography...it's just that you need to switch off horizontal stabilization, leaving just the vertical one

works like a charm...unfortunately I can't afford a lens with that setting...yet

Night shots...hmm my gallery from Parage of Power in Wellingborough was shot pretty much after dark but it's not that easy to tell because I used ISO 1600 (which your camera does have Ragz) and slightly lower shutter (1/500 as far as I remember...and f 4.5) to get the most brightness out. I did get a lot of noise thought but Photoshop does miracles in some cases.

Marcin Gwozdz Photography check it out.

Regards,
Marcin

burgerboy · 13-11-2007, 21:15

alright guys, been reading this thread and it all seems very complex, but seeing as i dont have a car to drift right now, gonna get my arse down to a few drift days and take a few photos, will post em up once ive tried!

Paddy · 25-11-2007, 01:29

Ross,

Catch me on MSN the next time your on, think I may have found a solution to night stuff ...

Ross · 28-11-2007, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy

Ross,

Catch me on MSN the next time your on, think I may have found a solution to night stuff ...

will do paddy

Dan Goodyer · 28-11-2007, 17:49

Hiya,

bit random, but does anyone know if/where I can get an adapter to use the video lens from my Canon XL1 on a Canon 400D?

I've found adapters to use the stills lense on the video camera, but not the other way around. Any ideas?

Cheers!

Ross · 28-11-2007, 18:46

hmm im not to up on my canon stuff but i dont think you can use the XL lens on the SLR, might be something to do with the built in ND filters the XL has??? but i may be wrong.

AndyC · 28-11-2007, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paddy

Ross,

Catch me on MSN the next time your on, think I may have found a solution to night stuff ...

Do share..... pleeeeeaaase!!!!!

Just got, well awaiting delivery of a flashgun, so any tips would be mucho apprecio!!!

Paddy · 06-02-2008, 23:29

Just updated the gear for the 08 season, so far I've got ..

Canon EOS 40D with Grip
Canon 300mm F4 L IS
Canon 24-105 F4 L IS
Canon 580EX II
Nikon SB800
Some Grad ND and Circ Pol filters
Wireless triggers for a flash system
Lightstands, brollies and adaptors for flashes aswell.

Going to try pick up a 30mm f1.4 and 150mm f2.8 next ...

Driftreport.nl · 06-02-2008, 23:38

Sounds great Paddy! especially that 300 L IS!!!
Next pickup for me would be also the 40D but a good laptop came first. So the body has to wait.

How is that 24-105 doing? Fast enough for some close twin's?

14-10-2007, 23:40	#283 (permalink)
DevilsTower touge runner Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Norway ftw Posts: 213	Should chill a bit on the shutter speed, set it to about 1/80-1/120, that should do the trick Edit: O crap, wrong thread. Last edited by DevilsTower : 25-10-2007 at 22:11.

18-10-2007, 08:31	#284 (permalink)
somac gripper Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5	less blurry pan photos i think the trick is to increase the amount of DOF, and the longer lens the less curvy the sharp DOF area: rest are here. greetings, Endre

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14-10-2007, 23:12	#282 (permalink)
sambo team yer maw Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,782	Hey guys, just looking for some general tips - had my first bash with an SLR the other day, mostly shot at 1/60 or 1/40 but I didn't really know what I was doing... Any advice for getting more of the car in focus, or anything else? Example of what I mean: Borrowed a Canon D400 but I'm not sure on the lens, it's a Canon one from the mid 90's and seems pretty good. Couple of other samples: (Only photoshopping was a bit of cropping and the odd little increase of brightness/contrast, was a very dull day) Cheers

19-10-2007, 21:22	#285 (permalink)
MarcinGFX doughnutter Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	1/40 and 1/60 is impressive, but the good/blurred ratio at the end of the day is not really good enough in most cases. With those speeds it's rather hard to get the car more in focus. From dragracing which I cover a lot in Santa Pod, when you have fast moving vehicles I always aim to focus at the middle of the car/bike. I use 1 point focus but you could play around with more... the problem you will get is that with AI Servo autofocus, when you'll have more than 1 point, the camera might re-focus on something that will get caught in one of the points and you will loose sharpness on your target Depends really what is the situation....when you have a head-on situation...naturally you will aim to front bumper...and so on and on... I think it's a matter of practice. I started off from 1/1000 with compact Olympus ;P and now I'm going down to 1/80, but mostly around 120 as DevilsTower advised. No need to get lower as you will only increase number of photos to delete...unless you don't drink at all and your hand is as stable as Manfrotto tripod ;P (whisper: or you have tons of cash and can afford lenses with image stabilizers) Hope that helps. Regards, Marcin

19-10-2007, 22:05	#286 (permalink)
sambo team yer maw Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,782	Thanks dudes, will give that a shot next time I pretty much just took a guess at what speed would be best to start off on given that I've read about Ross etc. shooting at 1/8 A few pints to steady my hands up might be in order next time

22-10-2007, 10:10	#287 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	marcin has hit the nail on the head there is no real trick to panning shots its pretty much all practice, i would also add that your stance is very important! standing feet together holding the camera like a rabbit eating a carrot will never work, you should have your feet apart with one hand supporting the lens and the other supporting the body there is no need for any "white knuckle hanging on for dear life" gripping of the camera just let it rest in your hands. Plan your shot and try to read the track ie, is there any bumps? is the subject going to be moving away or coming towards you? then plan exactly where in your arc you want the shot taken, you should start your pan way before your pre determined "shoot point" and carry on panning after you have taken your shots, personally i dont like just holding the shutter down and filling the buffer i normally shoot in bursts of 3 this may just be down to personal technique. As for image stabilizers.............for statics great.......for panning you gain very very little from them.

23-10-2007, 16:35	#288 (permalink)
sambo team yer maw Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,782	Cheers Ross, good advice Will have another bash at Crail next time and see how I get on with skidding cars

23-10-2007, 17:49	#289 (permalink)
T.K kudo fruiting Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,619	Some of the shots on this thread are incredible. fricking awesome guys!

23-10-2007, 23:57	#290 (permalink)
Ragz2009 gripper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 29	I Only Use A Old Fuji s602z But I Do Come Up With Some Ok Shots Im Just Having Probs With Low Light Shots And Setting The Cam Up For Nights So Any Tips Would Be Good Here Is Some Of My Ones I Like

25-10-2007, 09:07	#291 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	[quote=Ragz2009;564257]I Only Use A Old Fuji s602z But I Do Come Up With Some Ok Shots Im Just Having Probs With Low Light Shots And Setting The Cam Up For Nights So Any Tips Would Be Good night time and low light.................basicly its bloody hard to get good results, depending on what light you have you are looking at high iso and impossibly low shutter speeds, you could invest in a decent flash and experiment with flash sync but tbh im totaly stumped with night stuff.

25-10-2007, 21:51	#292 (permalink)
MarcinGFX doughnutter Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	Ross...image stabilizer does help in panning photography...it's just that you need to switch off horizontal stabilization, leaving just the vertical one works like a charm...unfortunately I can't afford a lens with that setting...yet Night shots...hmm my gallery from Parage of Power in Wellingborough was shot pretty much after dark but it's not that easy to tell because I used ISO 1600 (which your camera does have Ragz) and slightly lower shutter (1/500 as far as I remember...and f 4.5) to get the most brightness out. I did get a lot of noise thought but Photoshop does miracles in some cases. Marcin Gwozdz Photography check it out. Regards, Marcin

13-11-2007, 21:15	#293 (permalink)
burgerboy doughnutter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peterborough Posts: 63	alright guys, been reading this thread and it all seems very complex, but seeing as i dont have a car to drift right now, gonna get my arse down to a few drift days and take a few photos, will post em up once ive tried!

25-11-2007, 01:29	#294 (permalink)
Paddy ProdriftSeries Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Waterford, Ireland Posts: 1,105	Ross, Catch me on MSN the next time your on, think I may have found a solution to night stuff ...

28-11-2007, 17:49	#296 (permalink)
Dan Goodyer dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NW Kent Posts: 1,164	Hiya, bit random, but does anyone know if/where I can get an adapter to use the video lens from my Canon XL1 on a Canon 400D? I've found adapters to use the stills lense on the video camera, but not the other way around. Any ideas? Cheers!

28-11-2007, 18:46	#297 (permalink)
Ross CQB 241 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,051	hmm im not to up on my canon stuff but i dont think you can use the XL lens on the SLR, might be something to do with the built in ND filters the XL has??? but i may be wrong.

06-02-2008, 23:29	#299 (permalink)
Paddy ProdriftSeries Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Waterford, Ireland Posts: 1,105	Just updated the gear for the 08 season, so far I've got .. Canon EOS 40D with Grip Canon 300mm F4 L IS Canon 24-105 F4 L IS Canon 580EX II Nikon SB800 Some Grad ND and Circ Pol filters Wireless triggers for a flash system Lightstands, brollies and adaptors for flashes aswell. Going to try pick up a 30mm f1.4 and 150mm f2.8 next ...

06-02-2008, 23:38	#300 (permalink)
Driftreport.nl gripper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 23	Sounds great Paddy! especially that 300 L IS!!! Next pickup for me would be also the 40D but a good laptop came first. So the body has to wait. How is that 24-105 doing? Fast enough for some close twin's?