5 July Drifting Trackday @ Lydden Hill, Kent - Drifting forum

Doran · 20-06-2008, 19:07

5 July Drifting Trackday @ Lydden Hill, Kent

I know it is short notice but after the sucsess of the BHP Performance Show we are offering to anyone the chance of drifting @ Lydden Hill Race Circuit.

We are going to try opening a dedicated drifting session as part of our usual trackdays.

This will mean you get 8 x 15min sessions throughout the day.

We usually run four classes in 15min sessions every hour. These consist of usual track driving in novice, intermediate and advanced groups. We have the fourth class now available to dedicated drifting of all levels.

The day costs £125 which is cheaper than our usual trackdays. I know this is higher than other events but you must remember that the venue is an international racing circuit up to the best standards and regulations. You are already receiving a discounted rate and the circuit must cover its own costs of ambulances, medics, recovery, marshalls, etc which not all venues provide.

I need to know some entry figures ASAP for this event as I need 24 cars minimum to reserve the fourth class.

We have a BDC event a couple of weeks later and JDM All-stars event later in the year. This day will be perfect for all those competing in these events to practice the track and your driving!!

But this event is open to anyone of any driving ability as long as you hold a current UK driving license so beginners are welcome.

You must ensure that your car is in safe working order and complies to our noise regs of 105db. You must have a crash helmet (available for hire if required) and ensure you are wearing long sleeved and trousered clothing.

There will be tyre changing facilities available on the day.

Please post ASAP if you are interested like normal.

Thanks

islander · 20-06-2008, 19:20

love to go but £125 is a bit much when i got to do lydd and arena essex same half of the month, sorry dude

Hammond · 20-06-2008, 19:31

Liam, If I can scrape £125 together by then I'm there mate

sx-si · 20-06-2008, 19:39

not a bad price for a proper track tbh

HOTSHOT · 20-06-2008, 22:47

Yep. I could be up for this

TwinturboCH · 20-06-2008, 22:59

Awesome job Liam

This has to be THE best drift circuit available for practice in the UK today and is well worth £125 a day, but I would be a little worried about paying that much for a day where there are going to be as you put it 'complete beginnners'.

If track time is fixed at one 15 minute session every hour, then if one of these beginners has an off at any point it will mean others losing out on track time at a cost of over £1 a minute to them. If it was drifting all day with beginners then fine, a closed track every so often wouldn't be an issue, but if we have a limited amount of time and someone goes off in the first minute of a session, it could mean everyone losing a LOT of time.

Having beginners on a track day is fine as they can just drive within their limits, but beginners on a drift day WILL spin and WILL have offs, and Lydden is a demanding and unforgiving circuit.

Basically I'd go if either a) there are no absolute beginners and it's run in sessions or b) if it's drifting all day and beginners are allowed. I'd obviously prefer the latter as beginners have as much right to run decent tracks as anyone, but it costs a lot for pro's to go testing for the day, and to know that I will most likely lose a lot of testing time makes me worry.

Really hope this goes well and I'll most likely come down, even if it's just to watch and catch up.

Doran · 21-06-2008, 00:04

James,

Fully understand your worries but these problems happen with any track driving, not just drifting.

The way it works is that if a car goes off and is in a safe position, the session will still run as normal. If the car isn't positioned safely then the run will be stopped and all the cars held on the track untill the danger is removed. The run will then be restarted where it finished with no loss of time to the drivers.

I completely agree with you and ideally we would run the drifters in ability groups like we do with the grip drivers but we also need to be realistic. we arn't going to get the entries to do this at the moment, but if we do then we are more than willing to do it.

Think this is a major opertunity for everyone after the positive vibes from the BHP show.

Any other queries anyone has please don't hesitate to ask, if we get the numbers then final instructions detailing everything will be sent to the drivers upon payment/booking.

Thanks

retrodan · 21-06-2008, 08:57

MINT IM THERE, skidding lyddenhas been the highlight of my yr so far so no way im missing out on it again!!

people understand this is a PROPA trak and coming down th hill into the upwards sweeping corner ontothe straight is lke NO other corner i the uk le alone one u can drift on!! it ruls end off

BRADs14 · 21-06-2008, 09:19

i'm up for that, 125 is a fair price for an amazing track!! i agree with dan this is a real track! well done doran

skyprince · 21-06-2008, 12:14

yes please i'm in!!!!!

TwinturboCH · 21-06-2008, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doran

James,

Fully understand your worries but these problems happen with any track driving, not just drifting.

The way it works is that if a car goes off and is in a safe position, the session will still run as normal. If the car isn't positioned safely then the run will be stopped and all the cars held on the track untill the danger is removed. The run will then be restarted where it finished with no loss of time to the drivers.

I completely agree with you and ideally we would run the drifters in ability groups like we do with the grip drivers but we also need to be realistic. we arn't going to get the entries to do this at the moment, but if we do then we are more than willing to do it.

Think this is a major opertunity for everyone after the positive vibes from the BHP show.

Any other queries anyone has please don't hesitate to ask, if we get the numbers then final instructions detailing everything will be sent to the drivers upon payment/booking.

Thanks

If thats the case and , within reason, you are going to stop people losing track time, then pukka

Obviously there will be some times when it's unavoidable, but like you say, that happens in any motorsport. Can't wait though, wish I had a bit of money and I'd be there in a second

MrNick · 21-06-2008, 15:51

Events like these as Liam said need a mix of skill to balance the books and create a cool atmos ,some people get fumed when a trains late coz someones injured ..or annoyed about the traffic jam after fatal RTA's ,people die and other people get pissed off.. WTF

spinning and crashing all part of the learning process,even monkeys fall from trees ,newcomers need to be made to feel at ease and welcome ,not worrying about costing others a £1 a minute and being a nuisance.

Good luck with the day, hope to be there and can we take passengers ?

£125 bang on the money ,approx £15 a session

TwinturboCH · 21-06-2008, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrNick

Events like these as Liam said need a mix of skill to balance the books and create a cool atmos ,some people get fumed when a trains late coz someones injured ..or annoyed about the traffic jam after fatal RTA's ,people die and other people get pissed off.. WTF

spinning and crashing all part of the learning process,even monkeys fall from trees ,newcomers need to be made to feel at ease and welcome ,not worrying about costing others a £1 a minute and being a nuisance.

Good luck with the day, hope to be there and can we take passengers ?

£125 bang on the money ,approx £15 a session

I agree, it's just that mixing skill levels is better done when the sessions are split, having pro's like me and Dan, who will be hitting up to 100mph down the hill onto the handbrake can be very stressful for guys going 40-50mph on their first drift day, as well as meaning there are people constantly getting in the way. I really hope it works though and that I'm just worrying to much (as per usual), as the venue is AWESOME and, like I said, everyone deserves to have the right to practice circuits like this

Nothing wrong with the price at all, for facilities like that it's well worth it. To be honest, I'd be happy to split the sessions. I'd rather have 4 sessions I can go out in and 4 sessions for beginners for several reasons

a) it means that I can drive ballls to the wall and not worry about coming up on a car that has spun into the middle of the track

b) it means newbies can drive without fear of spinning and getting t-boned

c) it would mean that guys like me and dan can go out with the newbies and give them instruction should they want it without worrying about missing track time

d) that track is savage on tyres, four sessions of 15 mins would be 4 sets of tyres to me, thats £80 a session just in rubber, so £360 for the day. If i was doing 8 sessions, thats 8 sets of tyres and £720 for the day LMAO

I'm easy whatever, as I can just limit my driving to when the circuit is relatively empty. Either way I can't wait

Liam, don't suppose you want any instructors to come down for the beginners

LiGhTnInG · 21-06-2008, 16:51

Hudson. Part worns.

Liam, I'm up for it.

TwinturboCH · 21-06-2008, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiGhTnInG

Hudson. Part worns.

No point going testing if you aren't using the same kit you use in competition

To test properly you need the same tyres you use all the time

I'm still definately up for it as soon as funds allow

*Kimi* · 21-06-2008, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinturboCH

No point going testing if you aren't using the same kit you use in competition

To test properly you need the same tyres you use all the time

I'm still definately up for it as soon as funds allow

True True.

Hope we can make it down Liam, would be great to catch up with you guys again, especially my nutty blonde Amy! haha

I love Lydden, such an awesome, challenging track!

DR1FTER · 21-06-2008, 21:14

would love to go saw the speeds of the entry's into that first corner and would love to do it, but with the build of the other car just wont have the funds.

good going tho, will there be any more later in the year???

Doran · 22-06-2008, 19:08

Could anyone who is planning on doing this event please post their names in a list like normal. I need to know how many we could have before the event can be confirmed.

mr2 · 22-06-2008, 19:17

Cool beans doran!!!

Let me know when payment is due through pm please.

I'll be the first..

Ian waddington ( mr2 )
Steve biagioni ( baggsy340 )

MJG · 22-06-2008, 19:33

Sounds great, I would be down but no money coupled with having to borrow a friend to tow me down coupled to being 150miles away means it's a no-no. I'll be down at the end of the year/next year though when I get my license back and can drive.

Hudson, seriously, just get good part worns at £20 a pop even if you weren't tyre-piling, then adjust for the grippier tyres at the event. Anyone can adjust for that.

20-06-2008, 19:07	#1 (permalink)
Doran doughnutter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sittingbourne Posts: 47	5 July Drifting Trackday @ Lydden Hill, Kent 5 July Drifting Trackday @ Lydden Hill, Kent I know it is short notice but after the sucsess of the BHP Performance Show we are offering to anyone the chance of drifting @ Lydden Hill Race Circuit. We are going to try opening a dedicated drifting session as part of our usual trackdays. This will mean you get 8 x 15min sessions throughout the day. We usually run four classes in 15min sessions every hour. These consist of usual track driving in novice, intermediate and advanced groups. We have the fourth class now available to dedicated drifting of all levels. The day costs £125 which is cheaper than our usual trackdays. I know this is higher than other events but you must remember that the venue is an international racing circuit up to the best standards and regulations. You are already receiving a discounted rate and the circuit must cover its own costs of ambulances, medics, recovery, marshalls, etc which not all venues provide. I need to know some entry figures ASAP for this event as I need 24 cars minimum to reserve the fourth class. We have a BDC event a couple of weeks later and JDM All-stars event later in the year. This day will be perfect for all those competing in these events to practice the track and your driving!! But this event is open to anyone of any driving ability as long as you hold a current UK driving license so beginners are welcome. You must ensure that your car is in safe working order and complies to our noise regs of 105db. You must have a crash helmet (available for hire if required) and ensure you are wearing long sleeved and trousered clothing. There will be tyre changing facilities available on the day. Please post ASAP if you are interested like normal. Thanks

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20-06-2008, 19:20	#2 (permalink)
islander gone wrong Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: the moon Posts: 912	love to go but £125 is a bit much when i got to do lydd and arena essex same half of the month, sorry dude

20-06-2008, 19:31	#3 (permalink)
Hammond ~frick!racing~ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canterbury Posts: 4,808	Liam, If I can scrape £125 together by then I'm there mate

20-06-2008, 19:39	#4 (permalink)
sx-si dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: www.driftracing.co.uk www.dfdrift.co.uk Posts: 894	not a bad price for a proper track tbh

20-06-2008, 22:47	#5 (permalink)
HOTSHOT spl dori master Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Guildford Posts: 297	Yep. I could be up for this

20-06-2008, 22:59	#6 (permalink)
TwinturboCH dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bromley Posts: 4,785	Awesome job Liam This has to be THE best drift circuit available for practice in the UK today and is well worth £125 a day, but I would be a little worried about paying that much for a day where there are going to be as you put it 'complete beginnners'. If track time is fixed at one 15 minute session every hour, then if one of these beginners has an off at any point it will mean others losing out on track time at a cost of over £1 a minute to them. If it was drifting all day with beginners then fine, a closed track every so often wouldn't be an issue, but if we have a limited amount of time and someone goes off in the first minute of a session, it could mean everyone losing a LOT of time. Having beginners on a track day is fine as they can just drive within their limits, but beginners on a drift day WILL spin and WILL have offs, and Lydden is a demanding and unforgiving circuit. Basically I'd go if either a) there are no absolute beginners and it's run in sessions or b) if it's drifting all day and beginners are allowed. I'd obviously prefer the latter as beginners have as much right to run decent tracks as anyone, but it costs a lot for pro's to go testing for the day, and to know that I will most likely lose a lot of testing time makes me worry. Really hope this goes well and I'll most likely come down, even if it's just to watch and catch up.

21-06-2008, 00:04	#7 (permalink)
Doran doughnutter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sittingbourne Posts: 47	James, Fully understand your worries but these problems happen with any track driving, not just drifting. The way it works is that if a car goes off and is in a safe position, the session will still run as normal. If the car isn't positioned safely then the run will be stopped and all the cars held on the track untill the danger is removed. The run will then be restarted where it finished with no loss of time to the drivers. I completely agree with you and ideally we would run the drifters in ability groups like we do with the grip drivers but we also need to be realistic. we arn't going to get the entries to do this at the moment, but if we do then we are more than willing to do it. Think this is a major opertunity for everyone after the positive vibes from the BHP show. Any other queries anyone has please don't hesitate to ask, if we get the numbers then final instructions detailing everything will be sent to the drivers upon payment/booking. Thanks

21-06-2008, 08:57	#8 (permalink)
retrodan celebs in car Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sittingbourne,kent Posts: 3,035	MINT IM THERE, skidding lyddenhas been the highlight of my yr so far so no way im missing out on it again!! people understand this is a PROPA trak and coming down th hill into the upwards sweeping corner ontothe straight is lke NO other corner i the uk le alone one u can drift on!! it ruls end off

21-06-2008, 09:19	#9 (permalink)
BRADs14 BDC 2009 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hoddesdon Posts: 913	i'm up for that, 125 is a fair price for an amazing track!! i agree with dan this is a real track! well done doran

21-06-2008, 12:14	#10 (permalink)
skyprince touge runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southwick nr brighton west sussex Posts: 217	yes please i'm in!!!!!

21-06-2008, 15:51	#12 (permalink)
MrNick dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: lydd drift track Posts: 3,631	Events like these as Liam said need a mix of skill to balance the books and create a cool atmos ,some people get fumed when a trains late coz someones injured ..or annoyed about the traffic jam after fatal RTA's ,people die and other people get pissed off.. WTF spinning and crashing all part of the learning process,even monkeys fall from trees ,newcomers need to be made to feel at ease and welcome ,not worrying about costing others a £1 a minute and being a nuisance. Good luck with the day, hope to be there and can we take passengers ? £125 bang on the money ,approx £15 a session

21-06-2008, 16:51	#14 (permalink)
LiGhTnInG Doricomotion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DriftRacing.co.uk Posts: 8,175	Hudson. Part worns. Liam, I'm up for it.

21-06-2008, 21:14	#17 (permalink)
DR1FTER 1jz FTW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Crawley Posts: 613	would love to go saw the speeds of the entry's into that first corner and would love to do it, but with the build of the other car just wont have the funds. good going tho, will there be any more later in the year???

22-06-2008, 19:08	#18 (permalink)
Doran doughnutter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sittingbourne Posts: 47	Could anyone who is planning on doing this event please post their names in a list like normal. I need to know how many we could have before the event can be confirmed.

22-06-2008, 19:17	#19 (permalink)
mr2 dorifto kingu! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rainham,Essex Posts: 600	Cool beans doran!!! Let me know when payment is due through pm please. I'll be the first.. Ian waddington ( mr2 ) Steve biagioni ( baggsy340 )

22-06-2008, 19:33	#20 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,538	Sounds great, I would be down but no money coupled with having to borrow a friend to tow me down coupled to being 150miles away means it's a no-no. I'll be down at the end of the year/next year though when I get my license back and can drive. Hudson, seriously, just get good part worns at £20 a pop even if you weren't tyre-piling, then adjust for the grippier tyres at the event. Anyone can adjust for that.