how to use the Bee*R - Drifting forum

YashioFactory · 12-12-2006, 20:17

Before thread gets hi-jacked, were all aware that this device isnt good for your car, but so a lot of things arnt good for us that are cool

anyway just bought one of these & gonna fit it on the weekend.

theres rev1 rev2 & the gain switch (from left to right)

am i right in thinking that if i set rev 1 to 5000rpm, this is when the bangs etc will occur, but wil the car rev out normally to 7000rpm also or no?

rev 2 - m guessing all the launch control setting does is select the revs for the car to stay in - simply keeps the revs in certain zone so you dont just wheel spin, but dont know why the handbrake has to be on for it?

can someone shed some more light on this for me please or tell me if i am way off..

cheers

Dex · 12-12-2006, 20:23

the handbrake is the "switch" for the launch control

Dubstar · 12-12-2006, 21:11

rev 1 sets the rev limit - if its set to 5000 then thats the limit. ignition is cut at that point and 5000 becomes your max limit, and the ignition comes on and off as it bounces of that limit causing the bangs

rev 2 is connected to the handbrake - so it will only work as a kinda launch control. (more useful for having it at a low rev when parked and using it to shoot flames / bang)

the yellow gain is to set the bang... the lower the number you get a b b b b b b bang the higher the number you get a BANG

(rev1 and rev2 basically do the same thing just one works with the handbrake)

YashioFactory · 12-12-2006, 21:22

nice 1.

think i understand fully. just hope its simple enough to install now

**James** · 12-12-2006, 21:57

if you click 'home' at the top of the page, then 'resources' there's a fitting and useage guide for the Bee-R limiter that Maz translated

NIcad7 · 13-12-2006, 18:19

Now that Yoshio Factories problem has been sorted can i hijack the thread

and ask what is the problem with these rev limiters then?? (apart from it sounding like someone has slipped a grenade down your exhaust!)

Firestorm · 13-12-2006, 19:00

all those little "explosions" damage your turbo, as well as your catalytic converter. metal cats are a little more durable but most stock ceramic cats break pretty fast if you have a rev-limiter installed...

daim · 13-12-2006, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestorm

all those little "explosions" damage your turbo, as well as your catalytic converter. metal cats are a little more durable but most stock ceramic cats break pretty fast if you have a rev-limiter installed...

http://www.driftworks.com/catalog/pr...tuning-exhaust

YashioFactory · 13-12-2006, 20:37

they are not good for your rocker arm apparently, but you can get an upgraded one or something for 50 quid ?

CA18DET doesnt have rocker arm tho

but you must think - there are lots of things that are not good for your car - dipping the clutch, wheel spinns etc

NIcad7 · 13-12-2006, 22:07

Quality, as soon as my steel internal'd turbos go on ill be getting one off these babies,

Always wanted to know what made the Bee R324R go KABOOM round silverstone, sounded intence!

Cheers lads

TaxiDori · 13-12-2006, 22:16

Mine was good fun on my silvia but i was too scared to put it on the Skyline.

Dubstar · 13-12-2006, 22:21

i had mine in the skyline, but only used it on rare occasions.
got some serious explosions, and was always useful when someone was tailgaiting you !

Ali · 13-12-2006, 22:22

Was also mentioned that its hard to keep your exhaust system in one piece with a BeeR fitted

little_ant · 14-12-2006, 00:10

what damage would one of these cause on my FD rx7?

**James** · 14-12-2006, 09:22

the basic problem with the Bee-Rs is that they seem to work by intercepting your timing signal to the ECU and introducing a random element to it, problem being this means you have unburnt fuel and a spark that randomly fires, so you end up with all the explosion power that should be used for pushing the pistons down occuring in the manifolds, in the combustion chamber at the wrong time, in the turbo etc etc etc

The end result seems to be snapped rocker arms, knackered turbos and exhaust systems that seem to blow themselves apart

They're good fun and they kind of work ok if you use them conservatively, but if you abuse them and use them to make mental loud banging noises (and let's face it, who can resist a little tweak of that knob) they can start to cause problems

Nelo · 14-12-2006, 14:07

And exhaust and turbo gaskets too! Don't use one on an SR20 unless you have the rocker arm stoppers fitted. RB/CA are OK since there's no arms.

Shyne · 14-12-2006, 14:23

Quote:

little_antwhat damage would one of these cause on my FD rx7?

As James says, they trick the ECU's timing signal, not too chronic for a boinger, but with a rotary if you can't control the signal for the spark and its delayed then you can have it catch the Apex seal and badda-bing theres your rebuild and no compression on 2 of the 6 faces. Remember, theres a twin spark and a waste spark so if its randomly altering "A signal" then its a high increase on timing hitting the seal. Not sure if anyone runs one, but worth checking the forums mate

Minishonk · 14-12-2006, 22:24

do these work on na engines?

**James** · 15-12-2006, 09:28

they should do, yes.

The other thing to remember about a Bee-R limiter is that these work on top of what you already have in place, so if your standard ECU will only let the engine rev to 7250rpm, the Bee-R will only do anything if you set it below this point.

-WJ- · 15-12-2006, 09:29

yes...

12-12-2006, 20:17	#1 (permalink)
YashioFactory dorifto kingu! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 730	*how to use the BeeR** Before thread gets hi-jacked, were all aware that this device isnt good for your car, but so a lot of things arnt good for us that are cool anyway just bought one of these & gonna fit it on the weekend. theres rev1 rev2 & the gain switch (from left to right) am i right in thinking that if i set rev 1 to 5000rpm, this is when the bangs etc will occur, but wil the car rev out normally to 7000rpm also or no? rev 2 - m guessing all the launch control setting does is select the revs for the car to stay in - simply keeps the revs in certain zone so you dont just wheel spin, but dont know why the handbrake has to be on for it? can someone shed some more light on this for me please or tell me if i am way off.. cheers Last edited by YashioFactory : 12-12-2006 at 20:26.

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12-12-2006, 20:23	#2 (permalink)
Dex kut! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Clogsville Posts: 9,239	the handbrake is the "switch" for the launch control

12-12-2006, 21:11	#3 (permalink)
Dubstar dubstar.uk.com Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 834	rev 1 sets the rev limit - if its set to 5000 then thats the limit. ignition is cut at that point and 5000 becomes your max limit, and the ignition comes on and off as it bounces of that limit causing the bangs rev 2 is connected to the handbrake - so it will only work as a kinda launch control. (more useful for having it at a low rev when parked and using it to shoot flames / bang) the yellow gain is to set the bang... the lower the number you get a b b b b b b bang the higher the number you get a BANG (rev1 and rev2 basically do the same thing just one works with the handbrake)

12-12-2006, 21:22	#4 (permalink)
YashioFactory dorifto kingu! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 730	nice 1. think i understand fully. just hope its simple enough to install now

12-12-2006, 21:57	#5 (permalink)
James Lights out! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 7,637	if you click 'home' at the top of the page, then 'resources' there's a fitting and useage guide for the Bee-R limiter that Maz translated

13-12-2006, 18:19	#6 (permalink)
NIcad7 DRIFT*DIVISION Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orpington, Kent and Elmpt, Germany Posts: 902	Now that Yoshio Factories problem has been sorted can i hijack the thread and ask what is the problem with these rev limiters then?? (apart from it sounding like someone has slipped a grenade down your exhaust!)

13-12-2006, 19:00	#7 (permalink)
Firestorm doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 34	all those little "explosions" damage your turbo, as well as your catalytic converter. metal cats are a little more durable but most stock ceramic cats break pretty fast if you have a rev-limiter installed...

13-12-2006, 20:37	#9 (permalink)
YashioFactory dorifto kingu! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 730	they are not good for your rocker arm apparently, but you can get an upgraded one or something for 50 quid ? CA18DET doesnt have rocker arm tho but you must think - there are lots of things that are not good for your car - dipping the clutch, wheel spinns etc

13-12-2006, 22:07	#10 (permalink)
NIcad7 DRIFT*DIVISION Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orpington, Kent and Elmpt, Germany Posts: 902	Quality, as soon as my steel internal'd turbos go on ill be getting one off these babies, Always wanted to know what made the Bee R324R go KABOOM round silverstone, sounded intence! Cheers lads

13-12-2006, 22:16	#11 (permalink)
TaxiDori BEER CLINCH Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Guildford Posts: 5,906	Mine was good fun on my silvia but i was too scared to put it on the Skyline.

13-12-2006, 22:21	#12 (permalink)
Dubstar dubstar.uk.com Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 834	i had mine in the skyline, but only used it on rare occasions. got some serious explosions, and was always useful when someone was tailgaiting you !

13-12-2006, 22:22	#13 (permalink)
Ali dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South of Brum Posts: 832	Was also mentioned that its hard to keep your exhaust system in one piece with a BeeR fitted

14-12-2006, 00:10	#14 (permalink)
little_ant doughnutter Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 46	what damage would one of these cause on my FD rx7?

14-12-2006, 09:22	#15 (permalink)
James Lights out! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 7,637	the basic problem with the Bee-Rs is that they seem to work by intercepting your timing signal to the ECU and introducing a random element to it, problem being this means you have unburnt fuel and a spark that randomly fires, so you end up with all the explosion power that should be used for pushing the pistons down occuring in the manifolds, in the combustion chamber at the wrong time, in the turbo etc etc etc The end result seems to be snapped rocker arms, knackered turbos and exhaust systems that seem to blow themselves apart They're good fun and they kind of work ok if you use them conservatively, but if you abuse them and use them to make mental loud banging noises (and let's face it, who can resist a little tweak of that knob) they can start to cause problems

14-12-2006, 14:07	#16 (permalink)
Nelo Resident Alco Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Alcoville, Ireland Posts: 1,859	And exhaust and turbo gaskets too! Don't use one on an SR20 unless you have the rocker arm stoppers fitted. RB/CA are OK since there's no arms.

14-12-2006, 22:24	#18 (permalink)
Minishonk Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: B98 Posts: 2,511	do these work on na engines?

15-12-2006, 09:28	#19 (permalink)
James Lights out! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 7,637	they should do, yes. The other thing to remember about a Bee-R limiter is that these work on top of what you already have in place, so if your standard ECU will only let the engine rev to 7250rpm, the Bee-R will only do anything if you set it below this point.

15-12-2006, 09:29	#20 (permalink)
-WJ- S13 RB25DET Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Friesland Posts: 941	yes...