Painting subframe - Drifting forum

Jord · 02-05-2008, 13:58

Whats the best thing to use? Got a bit of rust to get off first and don't wanna be there all day getting it off so something which'll go on without it being too perfect underneath would be good. Finish doesn't have to be mint but just tidy and needs to keep the weather at bay.

Also, any tips for painting it up - i.e how to keep the paint from building up around threads etc?

sammysideways · 02-05-2008, 14:01

hammerite is what id use i think. freaking strong stuff just ask mitch when i painted under the bonnet

Jord · 02-05-2008, 14:05

I was thinking hammerite too, do I need to primer it at all?

sammysideways · 02-05-2008, 14:10

you dont need to but ive always had much better results when using there own primer but like i said after a decent sandown and de grease it will be fine to paint straight on.

oh thats another thing..make sure you de-grease/clean it well...hammerite reacts to EVERYTHING. you could powdercoat it to be posh but thats money and time

narcotic · 02-05-2008, 14:53

i had mine shot blasted, 2 coats of red oxide and then 2 coats of hammeite gloss finish

i would consider having it powdercoated if i was to do it again

Midlands_Si · 02-05-2008, 15:01

POR15

It's the daddy. Seriously, that stuff will be around post nuclear blast long after all the cockroaches have died off.
2 Coats of that followed by 2 coats of 'chassis black'

I've never had much success with HAmmerite, and the problem with powder coating is it seems to chip and flake off, not sure it's tough enough, wheeas the POR15 is rubbery and self healing.

eight-six · 02-05-2008, 15:01

Por15 - sticks like shit to a highly adhesive blanket. Clean it with some degreaser, key it, then paint it on with a brush, sets smooth and looks good .. well as good as you could expect a subframe to look. Sets harder than a mofo too.

Dont get it on your skin!

Jord · 02-05-2008, 16:17

Where can I get POR15 from without being raped [Halfords]?

tetsujin · 02-05-2008, 16:18

£rd vote for POR 15, dont get it on you though as its so good, its hard to get off!

Looks a Frosts for it...

Karan · 02-05-2008, 16:26

my e30 subframes are done in hammerite brushed on over their primer. I always jack on the subframe with metal jack and that stuff sets hard!

smokey · 02-05-2008, 16:43

i just cleaned mine with a wirebrush on a drill, cleaned it and used hammerite.

Dogs Danglies · 02-05-2008, 17:22

POR15 is bloody awesome stuff, expensive though. Got mine from Frost mail order, but its quite shocking the price for a tin of paint, if I were painting a subframe I'd just use hammerite.

Yeah and if gets on your hands its there till the skin beneath it falls off

eight-six · 02-05-2008, 21:15

Jord, Frost and Holden do it ...

Bum rape prices though as they are the only places in the UK where you can get it.

Still you could paint it onto pretty much anything and it just sticks and dosnt react.

Also dont paint from the tin, it goes off, pour out into a plastic cup or something and seal straight up or 3/4 of the way through the tin it will turn to shit.

Oh and it will genuinley bond the lid to the tin if you dont clean any dibbles off from the lid sealing area.

MJG · 02-05-2008, 21:22

I paid £15 for 5 litres of black hammerite so have developed a good knowledge of how it works since everything is now covered in it lol. I can say that painting subframes in it works very well

No primer required just make sure it's not oily.

xborninthefightx · 02-05-2008, 21:41

Wow £15 for 5L is cheap, where from.

Oh smokey did you spray it on or use a brush, I had a look in a shop and you can pay it in cans. Any different to the tins.

MJG · 02-05-2008, 21:52

B+Q closing down sale

5l of white, 5l of black, £15 each (RRP £50). Best deal ever.

**Mitch** · 02-05-2008, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysideways

hammerite is what id use i think. freaking strong stuff just ask mitch when i painted under the bonnet

Drippiest most fricked up painting under that bonnet ever. It took me ages to sort that, and I'd have happily beaten you with your own shoes if you were there when I did it

xborninthefightx · 02-05-2008, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJG

B+Q closing down sale

5l of white, 5l of black, £15 each (RRP £50). Best deal ever.

Lucky git

Polo · 02-05-2008, 22:33

If you hammerite it you will get brush marks, i got mine blasted £20 and got a local body shop to chuck a coat of etch primer then direct gloss white £20

Goddaz · 02-05-2008, 22:38

can you not spray hammerite then? or is it too thick?

02-05-2008, 13:58	#1 (permalink)
Jord F*ck your EGO. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 7,421	Painting subframe Whats the best thing to use? Got a bit of rust to get off first and don't wanna be there all day getting it off so something which'll go on without it being too perfect underneath would be good. Finish doesn't have to be mint but just tidy and needs to keep the weather at bay. Also, any tips for painting it up - i.e how to keep the paint from building up around threads etc?

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02-05-2008, 14:01	#2 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,374	hammerite is what id use i think. freaking strong stuff just ask mitch when i painted under the bonnet

02-05-2008, 14:05	#3 (permalink)
Jord F*ck your EGO. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 7,421	I was thinking hammerite too, do I need to primer it at all?

02-05-2008, 14:10	#4 (permalink)
sammysideways dorifto kingu! Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,374	you dont need to but ive always had much better results when using there own primer but like i said after a decent sandown and de grease it will be fine to paint straight on. oh thats another thing..make sure you de-grease/clean it well...hammerite reacts to EVERYTHING. you could powdercoat it to be posh but thats money and time

02-05-2008, 14:53	#5 (permalink)
narcotic dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North London Posts: 2,133	i had mine shot blasted, 2 coats of red oxide and then 2 coats of hammeite gloss finish i would consider having it powdercoated if i was to do it again

02-05-2008, 15:01	#6 (permalink)
Midlands_Si Posh Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 531	POR15 It's the daddy. Seriously, that stuff will be around post nuclear blast long after all the cockroaches have died off. 2 Coats of that followed by 2 coats of 'chassis black' I've never had much success with HAmmerite, and the problem with powder coating is it seems to chip and flake off, not sure it's tough enough, wheeas the POR15 is rubbery and self healing.

02-05-2008, 15:01	#7 (permalink)
eight-six dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,290	Por15 - sticks like shit to a highly adhesive blanket. Clean it with some degreaser, key it, then paint it on with a brush, sets smooth and looks good .. well as good as you could expect a subframe to look. Sets harder than a mofo too. Dont get it on your skin!

02-05-2008, 16:17	#8 (permalink)
Jord F*ck your EGO. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 7,421	Where can I get POR15 from without being raped [Halfords]?

02-05-2008, 16:18	#9 (permalink)
tetsujin * one-way rachet man * Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 3,051	£rd vote for POR 15, dont get it on you though as its so good, its hard to get off! Looks a Frosts for it...

02-05-2008, 16:26	#10 (permalink)
Karan dorifto kingu! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 884	my e30 subframes are done in hammerite brushed on over their primer. I always jack on the subframe with metal jack and that stuff sets hard!

02-05-2008, 16:43	#11 (permalink)
smokey spl dori master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: norway Posts: 444	i just cleaned mine with a wirebrush on a drill, cleaned it and used hammerite.

02-05-2008, 17:22	#12 (permalink)
Dogs Danglies Sick Puppy Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 1,948	POR15 is bloody awesome stuff, expensive though. Got mine from Frost mail order, but its quite shocking the price for a tin of paint, if I were painting a subframe I'd just use hammerite. Yeah and if gets on your hands its there till the skin beneath it falls off

02-05-2008, 21:15	#13 (permalink)
eight-six dorifto kingu! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,290	Jord, Frost and Holden do it ... Bum rape prices though as they are the only places in the UK where you can get it. Still you could paint it onto pretty much anything and it just sticks and dosnt react. Also dont paint from the tin, it goes off, pour out into a plastic cup or something and seal straight up or 3/4 of the way through the tin it will turn to shit. Oh and it will genuinley bond the lid to the tin if you dont clean any dibbles off from the lid sealing area.

02-05-2008, 21:22	#14 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 10,726	I paid £15 for 5 litres of black hammerite so have developed a good knowledge of how it works since everything is now covered in it lol. I can say that painting subframes in it works very well No primer required just make sure it's not oily.

02-05-2008, 21:41	#15 (permalink)
xborninthefightx spl dori master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ashford, Middlesex Posts: 444	Wow £15 for 5L is cheap, where from. Oh smokey did you spray it on or use a brush, I had a look in a shop and you can pay it in cans. Any different to the tins.

02-05-2008, 21:52	#16 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 10,726	B+Q closing down sale 5l of white, 5l of black, £15 each (RRP £50). Best deal ever.

02-05-2008, 22:33	#19 (permalink)
Polo Team Green! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the workshop! Posts: 2,098	If you hammerite it you will get brush marks, i got mine blasted £20 and got a local body shop to chuck a coat of etch primer then direct gloss white £20

02-05-2008, 22:38	#20 (permalink)
Goddaz doughnutter Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 36	can you not spray hammerite then? or is it too thick?