S13 & S14 Lower arms the same??? - Drifting forum

hachihead · 06-05-2008, 20:31

Are the lower suspension arms on the front the same on the S14 as the S13,bent one on the PS13 and noone seems to have S13's around but plenty of S14s for breaking.Sound.

Mr Bizzle · 06-05-2008, 20:34

S14 arms are longer and the ball joints are different. It's actually quite a good mod as it increases track width and gives more camber (if you like that sort of thing) Just swap the ball joints. If you want to run it at the correct camber setup you will need adjustable top mounts on your shocks and a full alignment rig to get it setup again.

**Mitch** · 06-05-2008, 20:41

Keep the S14 balljoints if you have 5 stud hubs...

hachihead · 06-05-2008, 20:49

It has 4 stud hubs and camber adjustable topmounts.
Will it be a straight swap if i just get the 2 arms so?, or will i have to get other stuff?i.e trackrods etc or will the normal s13 trackrods work??
Thanks

**Mitch** · 07-05-2008, 06:53

Oh, and I have some S13 ones at work...

Butchs13 · 07-05-2008, 10:11

I have just done this so might be of help.

Fitted them as they came (S14 length) with S13 fitment ball joint pins. Yes it does then widen the track but as a down side the wheels then toe out. Went and adjusted them straight but now the track rods have no thread left for safety. So removed the lower arms and took one lock nut out to bring the overall length back to S13 size. I then could put my track rods back at the correct safe length.

BUT now the ball joints are at there limit and they are pretty much locked (ie. if suspension compresses then ball joint cannot move anymore). This might be due to my car being so low (raising it would bring the lower arms more to the horizontal and therefore reducing the angle on the ball joints).

Anyone else had this problem???

Seems to drive ok though but i think i am damaging the ball joint in doing so.

brianthe · 07-05-2008, 11:58

Get longer track rod ends, best of everything and full adjustability.

hachihead · 07-05-2008, 23:37

Should i get the S14 ball joints aswell so with the arms??Or will it matter?

royal · 08-05-2008, 22:21

Get longer track rods/ends

hachihead · 09-05-2008, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by royal

Get longer track rods/ends

Ya i will but should i use the s14 ball joints or are they the same as the S13,ButhcS13 seems to have had probs ith his ball joints.

Any recommendations and the track rod ends?Not to break the bank also

max · 12-05-2008, 20:45

bump!!

06-05-2008, 20:31	#1 (permalink)
hachihead tail slider Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 95	S13 & S14 Lower arms the same??? Are the lower suspension arms on the front the same on the S14 as the S13,bent one on the PS13 and noone seems to have S13's around but plenty of S14s for breaking.Sound.

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06-05-2008, 20:34	#2 (permalink)
Mr Bizzle Team DWYB Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Beaconsfield, Bucks Posts: 3,834	S14 arms are longer and the ball joints are different. It's actually quite a good mod as it increases track width and gives more camber (if you like that sort of thing) Just swap the ball joints. If you want to run it at the correct camber setup you will need adjustable top mounts on your shocks and a full alignment rig to get it setup again.

06-05-2008, 20:41	#3 (permalink)
Mitch Driftgarage Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Derby fulltime Posts: 9,875	Keep the S14 balljoints if you have 5 stud hubs...

06-05-2008, 20:49	#4 (permalink)
hachihead tail slider Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 95	It has 4 stud hubs and camber adjustable topmounts. Will it be a straight swap if i just get the 2 arms so?, or will i have to get other stuff?i.e trackrods etc or will the normal s13 trackrods work?? Thanks

07-05-2008, 06:53	#5 (permalink)
Mitch Driftgarage Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Derby fulltime Posts: 9,875	Oh, and I have some S13 ones at work...

07-05-2008, 10:11	#6 (permalink)
Butchs13 doughnutter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: head up arse Posts: 71	I have just done this so might be of help. Fitted them as they came (S14 length) with S13 fitment ball joint pins. Yes it does then widen the track but as a down side the wheels then toe out. Went and adjusted them straight but now the track rods have no thread left for safety. So removed the lower arms and took one lock nut out to bring the overall length back to S13 size. I then could put my track rods back at the correct safe length. BUT now the ball joints are at there limit and they are pretty much locked (ie. if suspension compresses then ball joint cannot move anymore). This might be due to my car being so low (raising it would bring the lower arms more to the horizontal and therefore reducing the angle on the ball joints). Anyone else had this problem??? Seems to drive ok though but i think i am damaging the ball joint in doing so.

07-05-2008, 11:58	#7 (permalink)
brianthe gripper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Derby Posts: 26	Get longer track rod ends, best of everything and full adjustability.

07-05-2008, 23:37	#8 (permalink)
hachihead tail slider Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 95	Should i get the S14 ball joints aswell so with the arms??Or will it matter?

08-05-2008, 22:21	#9 (permalink)
royal S1- F.T break! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,739	Get longer track rods/ends

12-05-2008, 20:45	#11 (permalink)
max tail slider Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Limerick Ireland Posts: 90	bump!!