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gibbo s14 · 09-05-2008, 11:14

how much weight can u get out of an s14 by striping them out seat carpet an door card an thing like that , coz i wont to do it but is it worth it

MJG · 09-05-2008, 11:27

Not worth it unless you are trying to be 100% competitive. You could probably save about 20kg with basic stripping, maybe 50-60 if you went mental with fibreglass panels and removing important stuff. So it's easier to just drive a bit better.

Lots of people strip out cars because they think it's "drift" but the truth is, unless you are drifting a 120bhp sierra or similar, stripping out the interior isn't going to make a bit difference. Obviously some cars would benefit immensely from it, I saved nearly 200kg from my old BMW which made it a damn site faster but that was me driving a bare shell with lots of other mods, and it was a big BMW 5 series not a small sports coupe.

Jord · 09-05-2008, 11:34

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Originally Posted by MJG

I saved nearly 200kg from my old BMW which made it a damn site faster but that was me driving a bare shell with lots of other mods, and it was a big BMW 5 series not a small sports coupe.

Surely 200kg is still 200kg whether you have 100hp or 400hp? Your power to weight ratio is still affected in the same way.

gibbo s14 · 09-05-2008, 11:38

ive got a fibreglass bonnet, bummper, front wing, boot lid, an over fender to go on but in a s14 u dont think it needs to be striped out the . its my only car so i drive it day to day, but ive had car that was strip out before an like the way they look to

stevoS13wannabe · 09-05-2008, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Jord

Surely 200kg is still 200kg whether you have 100hp or 400hp? Your power to weight ratio is still affected in the same way.

But the less power you have the greater the affect will be on the power to weight.

so if you had say, a 325 e30 and can save 50kg, then did the same to a 316 you going to increase the power to weight more on the 316.

royal · 09-05-2008, 12:03

Unless you are competing or sticking a cage in or whatever I don't think its worthwhile stripping due to making the car so unpractical day to day, noisy, clunky,rattly,etc. Just remove your seats when you go to a drift day which takes 5 minutes and that will take out a good amount of the interior weight; and you've still got a car thats nice to drive around day to day.

gibbo s14 · 09-05-2008, 12:08

not to worried but rattly an stones flickin up etc got a full dash dodger cage to goin an fuel sell to go in the boot , not the best car to go shopin in but hay im only 19 so got to live ruff sum times

MJG · 09-05-2008, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Jord

Surely 200kg is still 200kg whether you have 100hp or 400hp? Your power to weight ratio is still affected in the same way.

Yeah but that's 200kg from an e28, I would like to see the state of an s14 after removing 200kg from it.

My point is, for the 20kg or so you'd save in an s14 it's not going to be worth it unless you're competing. But if you could save 50kg in a 316 then it might make it worthwhile.

As for listing your specs gibbo, that's good for you, well done, if you are building a full on competition car then may as well strip it out, but I doubt you are so may as well make it comfortable. This whole attitude must come with age

sx-si · 09-05-2008, 12:32

dont bother its shit you will be deaf if you have no cats and silancers and every stone is quite loud,

plus side you will learn the sound off your trubo elbow nuts running away

if i had the choice i wouldnt do it again

lozza · 09-05-2008, 12:37

I see MJG's point on this actually, completely stripping a low powered car is worth it i.e. taking everything inc sound deadening out of a volvo makes a lot of difference, but you have enough power to drift with an s14 with or without seats, it dont make a difference, so for daily use i would leave it all in and do as Royal said for skid days.

Although, i tend to agree i like a stripped out car too, not sure why lol

gibbo s14 · 09-05-2008, 12:39

so its not that nice to drive day to day, my golf dint seem that bad but these no turbo an thing an not as loud

MJG · 09-05-2008, 12:42

I never minded stripped out cars, was fun, but there's no actual point in doing it unless you don't WANT rear seats or if you WANT to hear everything. At the end of the day you can easily just pull out the rear seats and trim, and if you think it's ghey (you won't notice any difference so just on the noise/comfort factor) then put it back in. Removing seats and trim makes room for more wheels on a drift day though which is always handy.

lozza · 09-05-2008, 12:44

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Originally Posted by gibbo s14

so its not that nice to drive day to day, my golf dint seem that bad but these no turbo an thing an not as loud

I've just been using my Silvia for day to day and thats stripped of everything and you get used to it very quickly, in fact my daily drivers have been stripped out too for as long as i can remember, so go for it, just dont break anything ripping it out incase you want to put it back in!

gibbo s14 · 09-05-2008, 12:51

just like the way that cage look in striped out cars so might still do it .
the tyre piont is a gd 1 thats all way handy

PhatBob · 09-05-2008, 13:51

I love my stripped out S14, parked out the front of my house even without a working engine it looks super bad.

Driving it was a massively unpleasant experience though, every piece of grit that gets flicked up from the road sounds like something has fallen off the car, and when something finally did fall off the car (the turbo elbow bolts) I could have sworn it sounded and felt like the engine had passed in its entirety beneath the car's floorpan.

The answer is of course to use an iPod to drown the noise out with a selection of your favourite beats and basslines, theres no point in having any other ICE because the lack of sound deadening makes the choonage sound like its been passed through a food blender.

Am I happy without an interior? Yes. Would I take my Mrs out in an interiorless car? No. Would I do it to another car? Yes, but then I self-harm so all bets are off really.

royal · 09-05-2008, 15:07

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Originally Posted by gibbo s14

so its not that nice to drive day to day, my golf dint seem that bad but these no turbo an thing an not as loud

Duuuuuddde! please make an effort to speak english. Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm hanging around the off-licence with the homies and thats ultra gay!

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09-05-2008, 11:27	#2 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 10,500	Not worth it unless you are trying to be 100% competitive. You could probably save about 20kg with basic stripping, maybe 50-60 if you went mental with fibreglass panels and removing important stuff. So it's easier to just drive a bit better. Lots of people strip out cars because they think it's "drift" but the truth is, unless you are drifting a 120bhp sierra or similar, stripping out the interior isn't going to make a bit difference. Obviously some cars would benefit immensely from it, I saved nearly 200kg from my old BMW which made it a damn site faster but that was me driving a bare shell with lots of other mods, and it was a big BMW 5 series not a small sports coupe.

09-05-2008, 11:38	#4 (permalink)
gibbo s14 tail slider Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 91	ive got a fibreglass bonnet, bummper, front wing, boot lid, an over fender to go on but in a s14 u dont think it needs to be striped out the . its my only car so i drive it day to day, but ive had car that was strip out before an like the way they look to

09-05-2008, 12:03	#6 (permalink)
royal S1- F.T break! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,474	Unless you are competing or sticking a cage in or whatever I don't think its worthwhile stripping due to making the car so unpractical day to day, noisy, clunky,rattly,etc. Just remove your seats when you go to a drift day which takes 5 minutes and that will take out a good amount of the interior weight; and you've still got a car thats nice to drive around day to day.

09-05-2008, 12:08	#7 (permalink)
gibbo s14 tail slider Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 91	not to worried but rattly an stones flickin up etc got a full dash dodger cage to goin an fuel sell to go in the boot , not the best car to go shopin in but hay im only 19 so got to live ruff sum times

09-05-2008, 12:32	#9 (permalink)
sx-si dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: www.driftracing.co.uk www.dfdrift.co.uk Posts: 703	dont bother its shit you will be deaf if you have no cats and silancers and every stone is quite loud, plus side you will learn the sound off your trubo elbow nuts running away if i had the choice i wouldnt do it again

09-05-2008, 12:37	#10 (permalink)
lozza ChickFoot FTW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wyton, Cambs Posts: 3,946	I see MJG's point on this actually, completely stripping a low powered car is worth it i.e. taking everything inc sound deadening out of a volvo makes a lot of difference, but you have enough power to drift with an s14 with or without seats, it dont make a difference, so for daily use i would leave it all in and do as Royal said for skid days. Although, i tend to agree i like a stripped out car too, not sure why lol

09-05-2008, 12:39	#11 (permalink)
gibbo s14 tail slider Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 91	so its not that nice to drive day to day, my golf dint seem that bad but these no turbo an thing an not as loud

09-05-2008, 12:42	#12 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 10,500	I never minded stripped out cars, was fun, but there's no actual point in doing it unless you don't WANT rear seats or if you WANT to hear everything. At the end of the day you can easily just pull out the rear seats and trim, and if you think it's ghey (you won't notice any difference so just on the noise/comfort factor) then put it back in. Removing seats and trim makes room for more wheels on a drift day though which is always handy.

09-05-2008, 12:51	#14 (permalink)
gibbo s14 tail slider Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 91	just like the way that cage look in striped out cars so might still do it . the tyre piont is a gd 1 thats all way handy

09-05-2008, 13:51	#15 (permalink)
PhatBob Mr Sir Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newmarket Posts: 1,551	I love my stripped out S14, parked out the front of my house even without a working engine it looks super bad. Driving it was a massively unpleasant experience though, every piece of grit that gets flicked up from the road sounds like something has fallen off the car, and when something finally did fall off the car (the turbo elbow bolts) I could have sworn it sounded and felt like the engine had passed in its entirety beneath the car's floorpan. The answer is of course to use an iPod to drown the noise out with a selection of your favourite beats and basslines, theres no point in having any other ICE because the lack of sound deadening makes the choonage sound like its been passed through a food blender. Am I happy without an interior? Yes. Would I take my Mrs out in an interiorless car? No. Would I do it to another car? Yes, but then I self-harm so all bets are off really.