-bmw gearboxes- - Drifting forum

gaz_moose · 20-06-2008, 09:20

will a getrag 265 fit a car that previously had a 260/5
like is it the same length box are the input/output shafts the same?
will it fit mikes crappy car as he has a 260/5 and there is a 265 local.

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 09:26

As long as it's off the back of an M30 then yes.

Bolf · 20-06-2008, 09:28

Quick bit of internet research brings up :

11-27-2006, 09:55 PM
They are different.
1985:
RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i DRIVE SHAFT (SWIVEL JOINT)
1986:
RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i DRIVE SHAFT (SWIVEL JOINT)

The 260 and 265 also have very different shifter mechanisms:
1985 (265):RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i GEARBOX SHIFTING PART

1986 (260):
RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i GEARBOX SHIFTING PART

E28 history

But i've found nothing to suggest they won't be interchangable. Both were fitted to same models/engine.

ant · 20-06-2008, 09:28

that the dogleg one ? if it is its abit wank with a short diff as 5th is 1:1 mine drove like ass with one in

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 09:29

Hmm I've just read something that says they use different length driveshafts but I thought they were the same.

I'm gonna stick with my original statement that they fit exactly the same, 265 isn't dogleg Ant it's just a different code box.

I think the americans are confusing really old school 265s, I'm sure there's a later 265 too. As long as it has the same alloy gear selector support bar thing then I'm sure it'll fit.

Bolf · 20-06-2008, 09:30

Best get the corresponding prop section too.

gaz_moose · 20-06-2008, 09:33

do i need the prop bon?

the 265 has the removeable bellhousing?

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 09:36

By the way I tried to ring you a little while ago gaz.

Erm if it wasn't a "do or die" situation I'd say no, what prop is mike using? 265 is listed as the E30 M3 box too, so in that case if he's using an E30 M3 prop, common sense would say no.

Also E30 props should have a sliding section to accomodate differences in box length.

Ask him what the gear selector on the back looks like, if it's the usual split pin holding on an alloy rod with the gearstick in the rear in a cup then it's the right box and will fit.

If it's got a stupid big triangular shaped support flapping around on the back then I'd not be confident at all.

ant · 20-06-2008, 09:39

if its the same as my 265 then the box is longer, mike did have my shortened prop that fits it but i dont know what he did with it

gaz_moose · 20-06-2008, 10:11

i tried calling that place in coaville and couldnt get through
the guy in cov had no boxes either
the breakers in derby have the box with the romoveable belhousing what do i do? lol

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 10:14

Ring mike on his mobile that he hasn't got with him - dumbass - and ask him if he's still got the shortened prop.

Or e-mail him I guess.

sideways.taff · 20-06-2008, 10:17

Did Mike give you his work phone number? I've got that one if you need it?

gaz_moose · 20-06-2008, 10:23

i have his work phone number which he dont answer!
will the prop lengthener thingiy have enough give in it to compensate the extra lenth of the e28 box?

ant · 20-06-2008, 10:32

no i had to shorten an e30 m3 prop to get it in

MJG · 20-06-2008, 10:38

But the e28 box you had was a dogleg one ant, the normal e28 boxes are different IIRC as they are the same as 525i/528i etc? So perhaps that box is the same length as a 265.

Not sure what linkage is on the box Gaz will have to find out when he gets to the breakers in about an hour.

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 10:54

Didn't moffatt drop one of my E28 265s in to his E34, straight fit? Pretty sure he did.

ant · 20-06-2008, 11:21

mine was an e30 m3 one just to confuse things

MJG · 20-06-2008, 11:25

Just checking some random but intellectual looking forum post, it seems that the very early overdrive 265 boxes and the dogleg "sport" 265 boxes were both longer than the 260, but it seems the conventional 265 is the same dimensions.

I never directly swapped my 265 for a 260/5 but I juggled engines which were fitted with both and they always seemed to be the same sort of box. Hopefully all will work out and I'll have a bit of trivia for us all.

Anyone know how to rebuild a 260 gearbox?

**Bon Bon** · 20-06-2008, 11:27

Give it to a gearbox place and say rebuild please.

Or smash it to frick and get another one for 50 quid.

MJG · 20-06-2008, 12:03

I'll probs take it apart just to have a look if it's definately toast, if I can. Never looked inside a gearbox before!

I feel useless for being stuck at work when my boyo's are running around fixing my car for me

Hope we get it sorted!

20-06-2008, 09:20	#1 (permalink)
gaz_moose buy my car Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,008	-bmw gearboxes- will a getrag 265 fit a car that previously had a 260/5 like is it the same length box are the input/output shafts the same? will it fit mikes crappy car as he has a 260/5 and there is a 265 local.

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Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	Hmm I've just read something that says they use different length driveshafts but I thought they were the same. I'm gonna stick with my original statement that they fit exactly the same, 265 isn't dogleg Ant it's just a different code box. I think the americans are confusing really old school 265s, I'm sure there's a later 265 too. As long as it has the same alloy gear selector support bar thing then I'm sure it'll fit. Last edited by Bon Bon : 20-06-2008 at 09:32.

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20-06-2008, 09:26	#2 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	As long as it's off the back of an M30 then yes.

20-06-2008, 09:28	#3 (permalink)
Bolf www.manfoot.in Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Home: Manchester / Work: All over the UK Posts: 1,731	Quick bit of internet research brings up : 11-27-2006, 09:55 PM They are different. 1985: RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i DRIVE SHAFT (SWIVEL JOINT) 1986: RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i DRIVE SHAFT (SWIVEL JOINT) The 260 and 265 also have very different shifter mechanisms: 1985 (265):RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i GEARBOX SHIFTING PART 1986 (260): RealOEM.COM BMW E28 535i GEARBOX SHIFTING PART E28 history But i've found nothing to suggest they won't be interchangable. Both were fitted to same models/engine.

20-06-2008, 09:28	#4 (permalink)
ant R32 GTR-S Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: drugby Posts: 2,931	that the dogleg one ? if it is its abit wank with a short diff as 5th is 1:1 mine drove like ass with one in

20-06-2008, 09:30	#6 (permalink)
Bolf www.manfoot.in Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Home: Manchester / Work: All over the UK Posts: 1,731	Best get the corresponding prop section too.

20-06-2008, 09:33	#7 (permalink)
gaz_moose buy my car Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,008	do i need the prop bon? the 265 has the removeable bellhousing?

20-06-2008, 09:36	#8 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	By the way I tried to ring you a little while ago gaz. Erm if it wasn't a "do or die" situation I'd say no, what prop is mike using? 265 is listed as the E30 M3 box too, so in that case if he's using an E30 M3 prop, common sense would say no. Also E30 props should have a sliding section to accomodate differences in box length. Ask him what the gear selector on the back looks like, if it's the usual split pin holding on an alloy rod with the gearstick in the rear in a cup then it's the right box and will fit. If it's got a stupid big triangular shaped support flapping around on the back then I'd not be confident at all.

20-06-2008, 09:39	#9 (permalink)
ant R32 GTR-S Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: drugby Posts: 2,931	if its the same as my 265 then the box is longer, mike did have my shortened prop that fits it but i dont know what he did with it

20-06-2008, 10:11	#10 (permalink)
gaz_moose buy my car Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,008	i tried calling that place in coaville and couldnt get through the guy in cov had no boxes either the breakers in derby have the box with the romoveable belhousing what do i do? lol

20-06-2008, 10:14	#11 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	Ring mike on his mobile that he hasn't got with him - dumbass - and ask him if he's still got the shortened prop. Or e-mail him I guess.

20-06-2008, 10:17	#12 (permalink)
sideways.taff -NightWalkers- Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Wales Posts: 5,160	Did Mike give you his work phone number? I've got that one if you need it?

20-06-2008, 10:23	#13 (permalink)
gaz_moose buy my car Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,008	i have his work phone number which he dont answer! will the prop lengthener thingiy have enough give in it to compensate the extra lenth of the e28 box?

20-06-2008, 10:32	#14 (permalink)
ant R32 GTR-S Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: drugby Posts: 2,931	no i had to shorten an e30 m3 prop to get it in

20-06-2008, 10:38	#15 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,028	But the e28 box you had was a dogleg one ant, the normal e28 boxes are different IIRC as they are the same as 525i/528i etc? So perhaps that box is the same length as a 265. Not sure what linkage is on the box Gaz will have to find out when he gets to the breakers in about an hour.

20-06-2008, 10:54	#16 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	Didn't moffatt drop one of my E28 265s in to his E34, straight fit? Pretty sure he did.

20-06-2008, 11:21	#17 (permalink)
ant R32 GTR-S Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: drugby Posts: 2,931	mine was an e30 m3 one just to confuse things

20-06-2008, 11:25	#18 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,028	Just checking some random but intellectual looking forum post, it seems that the very early overdrive 265 boxes and the dogleg "sport" 265 boxes were both longer than the 260, but it seems the conventional 265 is the same dimensions. I never directly swapped my 265 for a 260/5 but I juggled engines which were fitted with both and they always seemed to be the same sort of box. Hopefully all will work out and I'll have a bit of trivia for us all. Anyone know how to rebuild a 260 gearbox?

20-06-2008, 11:27	#19 (permalink)
Bon Bon Flame On!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Moseley, Birmingham Posts: 5,012	Give it to a gearbox place and say rebuild please. Or smash it to frick and get another one for 50 quid.

20-06-2008, 12:03	#20 (permalink)
MJG e30 of Death Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Derby, England Posts: 11,028	I'll probs take it apart just to have a look if it's definately toast, if I can. Never looked inside a gearbox before! I feel useless for being stuck at work when my boyo's are running around fixing my car for me Hope we get it sorted!