726bhp and 616lbft on PUMP fuel, with full boost by 4500. Not bad for a 2.1 litre... - Drifting forum

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 15:37

Anyone want one of them SR20 vs Cossie YB discussions again? lol.

Ronnie200sx · 16-07-2008, 17:06

the sweedish love their cossies, seen quite a few in the magazines. oh and they spend money on their engines like there no tommorrow.. RESPECT

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 17:44

Thats a UK car

mr2 · 16-07-2008, 17:46

So i take that's a yb thats been built????

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 17:59

Yeah its a Cossie YB on normal super unleaded pump fuel, no race fuel, no octane booster, no nitrous, nothing.

mr2 · 16-07-2008, 18:00

Cool i would like to see the spec.

A freind of mine has a nicley built yb in his rs500

He would be interested too.

Smudger · 16-07-2008, 18:02

that must be an animal to drive, it jumps over 300lbs ft of torque in 500rpm

Andy_f · 16-07-2008, 19:17

1位山本S14 福井 SR20DET 901.4ＰＳ 73.8 フルチューン/T51R SPL/F-V PRO

POWER CHECK RANKING

Pasted from Pheonix's power website. Its the most powerful car in their 2L catagory they have tuned. I know its not the same as what you posted Stav, but at least its something to keep the argument balance a bit.

Only a weakass 533 lbft in comparison though. I'd be pretty sure on that car running normal petrol too, as Phoenix's power pride themselves on all their tuning being road legal.

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 19:28

That will be on race fuel though, this is good as its on pump fuel. Theres been a few Cossie engines around the world with 1000bhp+, but on race fuel, which is no big deal. Anyone can make good power on race fuel.

Aside from doing this on pump fuel, the other good thing is the powerband, ie its good, unlike pretty much every small capacity big power engine Jap engine ive seen.

Everyone is obsessed with high compression and stupid long duration cams...

Andy_f · 16-07-2008, 19:29

As far as I know, Phoenix's power don't make race tuned cars. Its all street stuff, and all their tuning is street legal, so I doubt it would be on race fuel. No info available on the car though from what I can see, just saying what I know about them.

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 20:36

I have never seen a big power Jap car that doesnt run on race fuel mate. Id put money that engine runs low boost on pump fuel and got that power on race gas. Big money.

Even in the UK practically all the 250bhp per litre or above Jap engines seem to run race fuel for full boost.

Thats why none of their stuff ever seems that impressive in the grand scheme of things, the best Jap engines come from Oz/Nz and the USA.

RyanH · 16-07-2008, 21:44

I remember the MA Developments S14a being fairly beasty, but I don't think it was THAT beasty!

EDIT: Nope, the MAD one was only 510-ish bhp!

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 21:50

MAD S14a? Never seen that?

The graph I posted was a RWD Saff Cossie

RyanH · 16-07-2008, 21:53

MAD's S14a, compressor surge tastic. - Video

I'm sure there was a longer video floating around of it, but that's the only one I can find at the moment.

EDIT: Ah it's not THE M.A.Developments, it's a swedish company called MADTech.

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 21:56

Ah, I was gonna say, thats not the UK, its some other company, lol

pizzaboy · 16-07-2008, 21:57

Garage Fukui/SPL/Pheonix Power are known for their big power (700bhp etc) 3SGTEs as well but whether they're drivable or not is another matter. They're known for placing big lagtastic turbos on the cars. They're more drag cars tbh. There used to be a Pheonix Power MR2 in Scotland running around 650bhp, the lag was hilarious! When the power finally kicked in (halfway up the strip

) the dude looked like he was going to crash the car the surge was that bad. Certainley not fun.
The YB power graph however looks amazing, the fact its giving you 500ft-lb from 4500rpm to 7000rpm is very impressive. Must feel awsome to drive.

kieran_e1 · 16-07-2008, 23:31

still just a ford though

Stavros · 16-07-2008, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by kieran_e1

still just a ford though

yeah, rather than that posh executive marque steeped in history and sucsess, right up there with Ferrari, Bentley, and Bugatti... Nissan

Chris_200SX · 17-07-2008, 08:42

pretty impressive power figures, but stav since you like to bang on about cossie yb engines being soo great then why dont you have one out of curiosity

Minishonk · 17-07-2008, 08:54

chris you seen the prices of them recently? iirc he had one

16-07-2008, 15:37	#1 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	726bhp and 616lbft on PUMP fuel, with full boost by 4500. Not bad for a 2.1 litre... Anyone want one of them SR20 vs Cossie YB discussions again? lol. Last edited by Stavros : 16-07-2008 at 18:00.

16-07-2008, 19:17	#8 (permalink)
Andy_f I <3 BDC! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Redditch/Birmingham Posts: 1,925	1位山本S14 福井 SR20DET 901.4ＰＳ 73.8 フルチューン/T51R SPL/F-V PRO POWER CHECK RANKING Pasted from Pheonix's power website. Its the most powerful car in their 2L catagory they have tuned. I know its not the same as what you posted Stav, but at least its something to keep the argument balance a bit. Only a weakass 533 lbft in comparison though. I'd be pretty sure on that car running normal petrol too, as Phoenix's power pride themselves on all their tuning being road legal. Last edited by Andy_f : 16-07-2008 at 19:25.

16-07-2008, 21:44	#12 (permalink)
RyanH spl dori master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Orpington / Bromley Posts: 325	I remember the MA Developments S14a being fairly beasty, but I don't think it was THAT beasty! EDIT: Nope, the MAD one was only 510-ish bhp! Last edited by RyanH : 16-07-2008 at 21:48.

16-07-2008, 21:57	#16 (permalink)
pizzaboy splendiferous Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,089	Garage Fukui/SPL/Pheonix Power are known for their big power (700bhp etc) 3SGTEs as well but whether they're drivable or not is another matter. They're known for placing big lagtastic turbos on the cars. They're more drag cars tbh. There used to be a Pheonix Power MR2 in Scotland running around 650bhp, the lag was hilarious! When the power finally kicked in (halfway up the strip) the dude looked like he was going to crash the car the surge was that bad. Certainley not fun. The YB power graph however looks amazing, the fact its giving you 500ft-lb from 4500rpm to 7000rpm is very impressive. Must feel awsome to drive.

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16-07-2008, 17:06	#2 (permalink)
Ronnie200sx tail slider Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sunny Skeg Vegas Posts: 148	the sweedish love their cossies, seen quite a few in the magazines. oh and they spend money on their engines like there no tommorrow.. RESPECT

16-07-2008, 17:44	#3 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	Thats a UK car

16-07-2008, 17:46	#4 (permalink)
mr2 dorifto kingu! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rainham,Essex Posts: 562	So i take that's a yb thats been built????

16-07-2008, 17:59	#5 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	Yeah its a Cossie YB on normal super unleaded pump fuel, no race fuel, no octane booster, no nitrous, nothing.

16-07-2008, 18:00	#6 (permalink)
mr2 dorifto kingu! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rainham,Essex Posts: 562	Cool i would like to see the spec. A freind of mine has a nicley built yb in his rs500 He would be interested too.

16-07-2008, 18:02	#7 (permalink)
Smudger doughnutter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 41	that must be an animal to drive, it jumps over 300lbs ft of torque in 500rpm

16-07-2008, 19:28	#9 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	That will be on race fuel though, this is good as its on pump fuel. Theres been a few Cossie engines around the world with 1000bhp+, but on race fuel, which is no big deal. Anyone can make good power on race fuel. Aside from doing this on pump fuel, the other good thing is the powerband, ie its good, unlike pretty much every small capacity big power engine Jap engine ive seen. Everyone is obsessed with high compression and stupid long duration cams...

16-07-2008, 19:29	#10 (permalink)
Andy_f I <3 BDC! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Redditch/Birmingham Posts: 1,925	As far as I know, Phoenix's power don't make race tuned cars. Its all street stuff, and all their tuning is street legal, so I doubt it would be on race fuel. No info available on the car though from what I can see, just saying what I know about them.

16-07-2008, 20:36	#11 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	I have never seen a big power Jap car that doesnt run on race fuel mate. Id put money that engine runs low boost on pump fuel and got that power on race gas. Big money. Even in the UK practically all the 250bhp per litre or above Jap engines seem to run race fuel for full boost. Thats why none of their stuff ever seems that impressive in the grand scheme of things, the best Jap engines come from Oz/Nz and the USA.

16-07-2008, 21:50	#13 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	MAD S14a? Never seen that? The graph I posted was a RWD Saff Cossie

16-07-2008, 21:53	#14 (permalink)
RyanH spl dori master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Orpington / Bromley Posts: 325	MAD's S14a, compressor surge tastic. - Video I'm sure there was a longer video floating around of it, but that's the only one I can find at the moment. EDIT: Ah it's not THE M.A.Developments, it's a swedish company called MADTech.

16-07-2008, 21:56	#15 (permalink)
Stavros DEYTUKURJURBS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Posts: 9,550	Ah, I was gonna say, thats not the UK, its some other company, lol

16-07-2008, 23:31	#17 (permalink)
kieran_e1 In need of practice Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,385	still just a ford though

17-07-2008, 08:42	#19 (permalink)
Chris_200SX -NightWalkers- Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: S.Wales Posts: 1,238	pretty impressive power figures, but stav since you like to bang on about cossie yb engines being soo great then why dont you have one out of curiosity

17-07-2008, 08:54	#20 (permalink)
Minishonk Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: B98 Posts: 2,505	chris you seen the prices of them recently? iirc he had one