e46 330i - Drifting forum

UK_JC · 23-07-2008, 23:51

Hi newb here, recently added a Quaife ATB lsd to my car and im keen on playing with some drifting, Its a big heavy 3ltr BMW but now ive added the diff it definately can get sideways. Im wondering without changing the suspension parts how much Camber i can add and subtract to the allignment to make it drift better??

Ive ruined the rear tyres on the back of my car playing around on some local tarmac, im wondering what make / manufacturer of tyre is a good long lasting all round drift tyre? will a hard compound tyre last longer than a super soft gripy tyre??

im going to get a set of 17"s and have them as narrow on the rear as on the front unlike the standard staggered set up im running now.

anyone here use an e46 for drifting?
im finding the clutch is a self adjusting type that is designed to let itself slip instead of getting a good bite and possibly damaging the clutch plate its annoyed me since I got the car and im looking to change it to an aftermarket jobbie without the SAC.

any good places to practice and mess around in the Surrey/South london area?

20vWill · 24-07-2008, 09:44

Ha you wasted your money on a Quaife... you should have bought a plate-type diff such as a KAAZ or BMW Motorsport item. But the car will still skid.

Camber-wise, your rear is adjustable from the factory. Set it as close to zero as possible to minimise inside-edge tyre wear.

More front camber will require different top mounts and/or front wishbone mount mods.

As for the clutch I'm sure Helix will do you a nice cerrametallic competition item.

royal · 24-07-2008, 09:57

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Originally Posted by UK_JC

Hi newb here, recently added a Quaife ATB lsd to my car and im keen on playing with some drifting, Its a big heavy 3ltr BMW but now ive added the diff it definately can get sideways. Im wondering without changing the suspension parts how much Camber i can add and subtract to the allignment to make it drift better??

Ive ruined the rear tyres on the back of my car playing around on some local tarmac, im wondering what make / manufacturer of tyre is a good long lasting all round drift tyre? will a hard compound tyre last longer than a super soft gripy tyre??

im going to get a set of 17"s and have them as narrow on the rear as on the front unlike the standard staggered set up im running now.

anyone here use an e46 for drifting?
im finding the clutch is a self adjusting type that is designed to let itself slip instead of getting a good bite and possibly damaging the clutch plate its annoyed me since I got the car and im looking to change it to an aftermarket jobbie without the SAC.

any good places to practice and mess around in the Surrey/South london area?

Tyres arn't a lasting item mate. Better off either buying cheap ones for the rear if you can afford it, or do what most people here do; go hunting in the tyre piles at local places. Most people go through at least 4 in a practice day, many do a lot more.

Best places to learn near here are either Santa Pod DWYB or Lydd near rye (see events section)

3 series Bimmers are very capable skid car

Username · 24-07-2008, 15:41

Also if you're ever in the zomerzet area there's Trampdrift South West

UK_JC · 25-07-2008, 00:26

[quote=20vWill;805998]Ha you wasted your money on a Quaife... you should have bought a plate-type diff such as a KAAZ or BMW Motorsport item. But the car will still skid.

More front camber will require different top mounts and/or front wishbone mount mods.
[quote]

Interested why technically the quaife isn't optimal for drifting or do you mean its just over engineered for the purpose?
I realise its probably something to do with its locking ratio and how well it can hold a drift but it could be something else

Does this forum know of anywhere I can purchase adjustable camber mounts for the front of my car then?

Clutch is on order, from what my friend says who worked for bmw its not an easy job to replace on an e46 and could cost near the 500£ mark to fit a new clutch is that about right?

goose · 25-07-2008, 00:38

mine would have cost me £80 to be fitted but i had it done for free!

£500 pure labour sounds like a rip off to me

Dogs Danglies · 25-07-2008, 09:34

If your mate works for BMW is he's probably basing the price on maindealer price rates, which £500 I think would be about right.

Can't you give your mate cash for a private job?

I've never driven a rwd car with a quaife, but its to do with the way they keep swapping power from wheel to wheel to find grip, rather than laying down the power evenly to the wheels like a plate or welded diff.

23-07-2008, 23:51	#1 (permalink)
UK_JC gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2	e46 330i Hi newb here, recently added a Quaife ATB lsd to my car and im keen on playing with some drifting, Its a big heavy 3ltr BMW but now ive added the diff it definately can get sideways. Im wondering without changing the suspension parts how much Camber i can add and subtract to the allignment to make it drift better?? Ive ruined the rear tyres on the back of my car playing around on some local tarmac, im wondering what make / manufacturer of tyre is a good long lasting all round drift tyre? will a hard compound tyre last longer than a super soft gripy tyre?? im going to get a set of 17"s and have them as narrow on the rear as on the front unlike the standard staggered set up im running now. anyone here use an e46 for drifting? im finding the clutch is a self adjusting type that is designed to let itself slip instead of getting a good bite and possibly damaging the clutch plate its annoyed me since I got the car and im looking to change it to an aftermarket jobbie without the SAC. any good places to practice and mess around in the Surrey/South london area?

24-07-2008, 15:41	#4 (permalink)
Username dorifto kingu! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bath Posts: 1,026	Also if you're ever in the zomerzet area there's Trampdrift South West __________________

25-07-2008, 00:26	#5 (permalink)
UK_JC gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2	[quote=20vWill;805998]Ha you wasted your money on a Quaife... you should have bought a plate-type diff such as a KAAZ or BMW Motorsport item. But the car will still skid. More front camber will require different top mounts and/or front wishbone mount mods. [quote] Interested why technically the quaife isn't optimal for drifting or do you mean its just over engineered for the purpose? I realise its probably something to do with its locking ratio and how well it can hold a drift but it could be something else Does this forum know of anywhere I can purchase adjustable camber mounts for the front of my car then? Clutch is on order, from what my friend says who worked for bmw its not an easy job to replace on an e46 and could cost near the 500£ mark to fit a new clutch is that about right? Last edited by UK_JC; 25-07-2008 at 00:27. Reason: typo

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goose dorifto kingu! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: cardiff, southwales Posts: 657	mine would have cost me £80 to be fitted but i had it done for free! £500 pure labour sounds like a rip off to me __________________

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24-07-2008, 09:44	#2 (permalink)
20vWill ...... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Doon Sooth Posts: 4,128	Ha you wasted your money on a Quaife... you should have bought a plate-type diff such as a KAAZ or BMW Motorsport item. But the car will still skid. Camber-wise, your rear is adjustable from the factory. Set it as close to zero as possible to minimise inside-edge tyre wear. More front camber will require different top mounts and/or front wishbone mount mods. As for the clutch I'm sure Helix will do you a nice cerrametallic competition item.

25-07-2008, 09:34	#7 (permalink)
Dogs Danglies Sick Puppy Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,164	If your mate works for BMW is he's probably basing the price on maindealer price rates, which £500 I think would be about right. Can't you give your mate cash for a private job? I've never driven a rwd car with a quaife, but its to do with the way they keep swapping power from wheel to wheel to find grip, rather than laying down the power evenly to the wheels like a plate or welded diff.