Just a quick question - Drifting forum

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 22:29

ive got 3 point sparco harnesses. ive bolted them today to the back rear quarter of my skyline.

is this wrong or right ? cant seem to find any answers on google etc..

ive seen them done to strut braces and roll cages at a similar kind of angle.

many thanks,

rich

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:06

ive tried the search and cant find any photos or anything like that ?!

found a thread with some 16 yearolf fiesta owner getting abuse.. but nothing to help me with '' yes its okay '' or '' no you will die ''

robbs · 31-08-2008, 23:15

as far as im aware you need to bolt them into the existing holes for your rear seat belts (im not even sure if thats totally safe) or to a rollcage, deffo not to a strut brace cos if the car folds from a rear impact the harness will go slack and you may die.

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:17

its to the rear quarter. so i can still use rear seats.

i dont have a cage as of yet. Is it okay to bolt them to my rear quarter ?

sorry if its a bit of a stoopid question... just regard my safety highly

initial_j · 31-08-2008, 23:19

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Originally Posted by rich r33

ive tried the search and cant find any photos or anything like that ?!

found a thread with some 16 yearolf fiesta owner getting abuse.. but nothing to help me with '' yes its okay '' or '' no you will die ''

lol, was that a kyle thread? put the link up!

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:21

as requested :

how to fit harnesses and still use back seats??

now will i die if i crash ...lol

robbs · 31-08-2008, 23:24

why have harnesses if you've still got rear seats ? or more to the point why still have rear seats if there's harnesses in the way ? anyway a decent bucket seat and normal seatbelt would hold you in enough.

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:26

i had them from a previous car. i rarely use the back seats, but you never know..

Is it safe where i have mounted them ?

initial_j · 31-08-2008, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich r33

as requested :

how to fit harnesses and still use back seats??

now will i die if i crash ...lol

lol, that made me smile reading that again. another awesome kyle thread!

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by initial_j

lol, that made me smile reading that again. another awesome kyle thread!

lol... stop spamming and help me out here !

initial_j · 31-08-2008, 23:37

ok...

think a picture would help really. id of thought personaly, as long as they run reasonably straight back from the holes in the seat, and are actually bolted into something that holds them tight, you should be ok.

simple test, try pulling them out. if they come out. youve failed!

robbs · 31-08-2008, 23:38

stick up a photo of where they're bolted to as im not entirely sure where you've bolted them, but i'd say it doesn't sound safe at all, just ask yourself could the harness end up slack in an impact and if the answer is yes then there you have it.

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:39

thyre bolted next to the back seat belt mount...

only pic i could find... but bear in mind the seatsare fully reclined ! normally the harnesses are tight.

feel safe to me...

robbs · 31-08-2008, 23:48

nope that dont look safe to me.

imagine you have a crash and your car ends up like this

look how far forward the C pillar has been pushed forward at least 2 feet, now if thats in your car thats 2 feet of slack to the harness and your head flying 2 feet further foward into the steering wheel or windshield

, nope deffinately not safe

.

rich r33 · 31-08-2008, 23:50

sorted... will bolt them where i had them

you can see, just, on this photo here

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...m/28c7c91e.jpg

thanks for the replies guys

31-08-2008, 22:29	#1 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	Just a quick question ive got 3 point sparco harnesses. ive bolted them today to the back rear quarter of my skyline. is this wrong or right ? cant seem to find any answers on google etc.. ive seen them done to strut braces and roll cages at a similar kind of angle. many thanks, rich

31-08-2008, 23:15	#3 (permalink)
robbs MANJI MAN Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FAREHAM (Almost-Portsmouth-ish) Posts: 4,038	as far as im aware you need to bolt them into the existing holes for your rear seat belts (im not even sure if thats totally safe) or to a rollcage, deffo not to a strut brace cos if the car folds from a rear impact the harness will go slack and you may die. Last edited by robbs : 31-08-2008 at 23:17.

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31-08-2008, 23:06	#2 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	ive tried the search and cant find any photos or anything like that ?! found a thread with some 16 yearolf fiesta owner getting abuse.. but nothing to help me with '' yes its okay '' or '' no you will die ''

31-08-2008, 23:17	#4 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	its to the rear quarter. so i can still use rear seats. i dont have a cage as of yet. Is it okay to bolt them to my rear quarter ? sorry if its a bit of a stoopid question... just regard my safety highly

31-08-2008, 23:21	#6 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	as requested : how to fit harnesses and still use back seats?? now will i die if i crash ...lol

31-08-2008, 23:24	#7 (permalink)
robbs MANJI MAN Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FAREHAM (Almost-Portsmouth-ish) Posts: 4,038	why have harnesses if you've still got rear seats ? or more to the point why still have rear seats if there's harnesses in the way ? anyway a decent bucket seat and normal seatbelt would hold you in enough.

31-08-2008, 23:26	#8 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	i had them from a previous car. i rarely use the back seats, but you never know.. Is it safe where i have mounted them ?

31-08-2008, 23:37	#11 (permalink)
initial_j has issues.. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canterbury yo! Posts: 5,600	ok... think a picture would help really. id of thought personaly, as long as they run reasonably straight back from the holes in the seat, and are actually bolted into something that holds them tight, you should be ok. simple test, try pulling them out. if they come out. youve failed!

31-08-2008, 23:38	#12 (permalink)
robbs MANJI MAN Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FAREHAM (Almost-Portsmouth-ish) Posts: 4,038	stick up a photo of where they're bolted to as im not entirely sure where you've bolted them, but i'd say it doesn't sound safe at all, just ask yourself could the harness end up slack in an impact and if the answer is yes then there you have it.

31-08-2008, 23:39	#13 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	thyre bolted next to the back seat belt mount... only pic i could find... but bear in mind the seatsare fully reclined ! normally the harnesses are tight. feel safe to me...

31-08-2008, 23:48	#14 (permalink)
robbs MANJI MAN Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FAREHAM (Almost-Portsmouth-ish) Posts: 4,038	nope that dont look safe to me. imagine you have a crash and your car ends up like this look how far forward the C pillar has been pushed forward at least 2 feet, now if thats in your car thats 2 feet of slack to the harness and your head flying 2 feet further foward into the steering wheel or windshield , nope deffinately not safe .

31-08-2008, 23:50	#15 (permalink)
rich r33 gripper Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23	sorted... will bolt them where i had them you can see, just, on this photo here http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...m/28c7c91e.jpg thanks for the replies guys