Black people call themselves the N word, it doesn't mean it's ok for most white people to call black people the N word, or does it? I'm referring to the use of calling Irish people Paddys and there being a Paddys day. Look I have a sense of humour and don't think the two lads are bad people at all. And if there new to it then maybe they can take it on board and leave off the gay jokes. I'm taking back the racist comment. It's more just a bit offensive and not very professional. There are very likely gay drivers and fans of drifting, lets not make gay jokes so about it being bad to be gay. The FD guy has a laugh too but not at the expensive of gay people. Am I against jokes that have , being gay to be seen as a negative, yes I am against this. I've been following drifting for over ten years and I'd prefer if it could move with the times. That's all I've saying, there grand lads, just tone done the slagging of irish and leave out the negative gay jokes. Might help our sport be taken more seriously by main media.
I only go to a handful of drift events in the year, but I've yet to attend one where I haven't found the commentary irritating. Not because of any slurs, but purely because they all seem really unprofessional. I'm sure doing commentary for long events is tricky, but I have long been of the opinion (and this applies to all motorsport) that a live commentator should speak when they have something interesting to say; silence is perfectly acceptable if you have run out of facts. Silverzx has already posted my solution for the livestreams though... ...
I didn't catch any of the particular commentary thats being discussed, i was at Allstars where despite the commentary being a little stilted and cringeworthy at times (as all commentary is) there were no race or sexuality issues. I don't think it was even mentioned despite a wide range of nationalities in attendance. Sexuality has very little if anything to do with drifting. Things are acceptable in context and given relevance and most people in and around drifting are relaxed enough not to get upset by a bit of ribbing. Its not offensive to call someones driving a bit gay, or a big gay wing a big gay wing, its just a little irrelevant, unimaginative and all a bit playground. Aligning a particular sexuality with negativity or negative actions with sexuality is lame and should just be flat out avoided. Same with this 'Ha GAY!' thing. The exception to this is if there is actual homo-erotic relevance. If theres a car plastered with same sex pornography or two chaps step out of their cars after an intense battle and start to plunder the depths over the bonnet then its undeniably a bit gay. I should add, if you were that upset by it at the time you should have gone and said something to the relevant people. This is all a bit late.
Mmmmmm I was not upset, just thought it in poor taste really. Not the end of the world or anything. Maybe just the lads could keep it in mind to be a little more PC next time, leave off the gay slaggings. If they new to it then nope why would the two lads be perfect. Also just wondering what other people thought, if most people here are grand with the commentary they heard then rock on, but no harm discussing it here I thought? I watched it on livestream, so I'm not sure who I'd contact? Again I wasn't at home upset just wondered what others thought plus giving some feed back. Not sure it's a bit late if these guys will be commentating again, or I'm sure there will BDC commentary at the rest of the round. As the add said, it's good to talk, or post!
Your doing my head in, if you don't like it don't watch it It's like snooker I don't like it so I don't watch it
Thanks danny, if you didn't like this thread, possibly you could take your own advice? Don't read it? I love drifting so I don't think it's like you and snooker.
I was there and at times it got irritating but that was more due to the pa system being loud. The guys commentating were/are drivers and they know the people they are making jokes about. Sit back relax and don't take life too seriously.
Can you please quote the gay jokes? I watched the whole thing and never picked up on anything that would be deemed as offensive. Unless you mean when they were talking about "big gay wing", which is what they are known as worldwide, so I can't see that being an issue.
a big gay wing, the gay thing is really a reference to something that is slightly unusual and considered a tad cringeworthy or unseemly by most. which is what gay people were and maybe still are. i can see why it annoys you, the use of your sexuality to define something as being odd or weird or different. but i certainly understand it. Phil
i just burst out laughing at work! anyway... if you dont like it, don't watch/listen to it. simple! as for the BGW comments, i've seen them listed on for sale sites as "BGW" if you feel this strongly about it then send an email to the relevant people
lol whilst this was put in the worst possible way, OP has a point..but you need to pillar drill to china to find it. Ian, Mark and Ben fair play to them, they have to stand there and talk constantly for hours on end to livestream viewers and those at the track, its not an easy thing to do. For the mean time, the banter and jokes are fine, close to the edge but to be honest 99% of the drift crowd aint gonna give a fuck are they. But if drifting became more mainstream, big money spinning mass TV showing juggernaut like F1 then commentary will need to change to a more professional approach but that will come naturally. If the lads tried to take a more professional approach to it, things would be very awkward very quick as theres nothing to break it up, not enough to really talk about, no cutting to suzy in the pits etc.
is this something that could be for the future? a person on the start line/queue's or pits? or would the costs outway the gain?
I dunno how TV etc works but if they did have a pit commentator giving the low down every so often on anything interesting then i cant see why it would cost the earth. If you took f1 commentary for an example ill lay out how commentary "could" work 1.Commentators intro, bit of track history, how many times BDC have been to said track etc 2.In depth look at the clipping points, what the judges want to see, we have our own david Coulthards so the knowledge is there. either do this by a quick track walk or a edited pre recorded run. 3.Cars on track, bit of info on what we got, keep it short keep it sweet, often lads are still talking about a car that went 5 minutes ago lol. 4. Quali runs, general commentary. 5. Battles, talk about each driver what they have got, talk about their quali runs. now during all this if a pit commentator was there then they can cut to that whenever theres some interesting changes going on, go into more technical things, like if someone was making some suspension changes or someone has come in for a 5 minute rule. this is just scraping the surface but there is plenty of meat to chew on, especially if the support is there to back it up with live cameras, edited replays etc etc. anyway thats my view on it all
Hold on are these gay jokes you're referring to the comments where it was something the lines of "Oh Dan just got a bit too deep in the backside of John?" - If it is, give it a rest man! He said it, realised what he said, then they started taking the piss out of the boy who said it. Not insinuating the drivers are gay or slaggin off any gay people. Aye it was maybe a bit childish but come on its hardly going to have people raging over whats clearly a play on words/joke.
Don't listen to it is the answer, so say if you were black in the 60s in the USA, you'd say if you don't like getting linched, just don't go down south, this would be your solution rather than civil rights movement? Maybe you can send me where it's advertised as BGW so I can email them. I don't get why someone like me with a different opinion to the majority is so offensive to you all?
They have it for the drift allstars Euro program, but that's not live it's recorded for tv. I totally get that there isn't a massive budget so I don't expect the coverage you get with F1, I'm happy just getting to see FD, IDC and BDC and Allstars live for free over net. I suppose I would like if drifting was taken more seriously by the other motorsports, bit more PC commentary might help. Like with this thread, I said I wasn't mad on the commentary, and some replies are STFU etc, not exactly the most inclusive of attitudes. I'll hold my hand up, I'd hate to have to try commentate for hrs at a track. So fair play to the lads for doing it.