2010-JDM Allstars RD 4 -Wembley August 28/29th

Thread in 'Drifting Chat / Pictures / Videos' started by Drift Allstars, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. MastaMarek

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    wait, whut!? whats acceptable behavior!? I'm just sayin that you can't hit another drivers while drifting and then expect to get the round. lol. I'm not judging or blaming anyone. Its a very weird accident. Trela did slow down at the end which was a bit werd but I can't really blame the guy. I mean, after being hit in that video his tail went bananas ... who knows what was going on in his head. It was just a split second before Luke hit him again. The conspiracy theories of Trela purposely slamming on the brakes are just ... well, come on, are we really gonna into that direction!? I don't think anyone is to blame from that run. It just happened. whooptie doo. why teh judges didn't decide to do a re-run!? everybody would be happy then. lol. but if they had to make a decision, they did the correct one. Not the one that will win the hearts and minds of driftworks users. lol. U judge on what happened, not on what could have happened or should have happened.

    but ya, why couldn't they do another run?
     
  2. danbuckjoyce

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    Your all like a bunch of bickering girls, come on who bloody cares?
     
  3. mandelbug

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    Thoroughly enjoyed the day out on Sunday. Some definite shocks with Dan going out early on. Massive congrats to G-Master, it was awesome to see you keep going through :thumbs:. Must say that Matt "Chippa" (daren't attempt surname) looked massively improved at Wembley, the new paint job doing it's job! With the paint job did he get a few more BHP added?
     
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    His surname translates as "half arse" in Italian. Just call him matt half arse.
     
  5. DRAGONFD3S

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    Im not sure on the judging system, I didnt seem to undertsand it.
    However from my point of view the more risk you took and the more wild you drove seem to mean you more likely to lose!
    For example Stiggy was abosutely awesome, massive cheers from the crowd when he was on the 350s door, then he is awesome again against the Subaru and spun on the last corner I think, so loses. And the crowd loses too, because a slower more boring driver goes through.
    I dont think a spin should constitute an automatic zero. I thnk the judging system seems to be encouraging less crazy wild drifting.
    The crowd are the people that pay to be there, so surely the comp should be tailered to impressing them, the most cheers etc came from the wild driving, overtaking, slight rubbing etc, all the things that kick out the drivers that the crowd like the best!
     
  6. g6mmc

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    what happened the BMC green chaser taxi on saturday ?
     
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    We in the crowd oginally thought that the decision was overturned for the second run where Fink appeared to slow down a LOT after apexing the second corner - dont spose anyone had video of that do they?? :confused:

    I said it at the time and I stand by this - it cant be seen as a bad thing that judges can go to video evidence, or just take another 5 minutes to make sure they have got the right call. That clash is a great example - we were definitely unsighted by tyre smoke but that second angle is clear as day. :nod:

    I think thats a good and ballsy call by the judges and I hope its something we see more in the future. :thumbs:
     
  8. floyd

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    what the fuck you on about parts wind youre neck in nob
     
  9. docwra

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    Couple of other things I wanted to metnion:

    Im guessing this didnt come off?? ;) It was a shame, as especially before the rain came down and everyone left it was 5/6 deep to the fence at places, meaning no-one could get a decent view :(

    You had also confirmed that food and drink could be brought into the venue but I understand people were getting stopped on the gate and their stuff taken off them - thats a pretty poor show to be honest. :(

    Ive got to say the track layout was superb though and the action was as good as any Ive seen in the UK, if you could sort out more places to view then it would be awesome. :nod:
     
  10. floyd

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    what the fuck you on about parts ? wind youre neck in cheeky twat
     
  11. floyd

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    its all done and dusted now wether it was right or wrong ,
    lets forget about it and move on to the next round.
     
  12. mitto

    mitto -NIGHTSPIRT FAMILY-

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    exactly! we all had a laugh, so much so that even my poop smells like rubber!

    It was a no booze event... afaik food/drink was fine.
     
  13. floyd

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    despite the decision it was a great event and run like clockwork , and still the best series out there.
     
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    it was i good weekend. and a big well done to stiggy for keeping the starlet up there.
     
  15. fink

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    nail in the head yo:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    all good still had fun..

    what ever happened happened let just get on with it..
     
  16. Skiddly Diddly

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    Well, thankfully I was at the other end of the track when this happened. So I can't say for sure what happened or why. The video evidence isn't entirely conclusive, I can tell if it was a tap or a whack, or a brake check, and different angles seem to tell different stories.

    All I can say is, in the light of there being a lack of conclusive evidence either way, I think the judges should have immediately run a one more time. If they can't see what happened, a decision either way is going to be attacked. It just seems safest to run it again.

    Who would be a judge eh!
     
  17. Blackett

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    I did a little search online and found a pretty good description of D1 judging.

    What are the judges looking for?
    Drifting is a sport that is judged similar to ice skating or Snowboarding. Just like any sport, there are criteria to look for. There are minimum requirements to a good drift that everyone must understand such as:

    Entry speed - This is part of the criteria that will be met very easily with the use of a radar gun with speed display. Entry speed is one of the most visible aspects that judges will look for because it will determine the other parts of a driver's drift.

    Line clipping - This is another part of drift that the judges will be looking into. The clipping line is often judged by how well the driver takes a drive line. The line itself should always involve the vehicle hitting the right apex of a corner. Judges prefer to see a driver take a tight line around a corner, putting the nose of the car as close as possible to the apex of the turn. Getting the back end of the car close to the outside of a turn also demonstrates car control and can score the driver additional points.
    Angle and counter steer - Driving angle of the vehicle is the angle of rotation of the vehicle relative to the direction of its travel. Basically this means that the farther the back end of the car comes around (without losing control), the more points a driver would score in this category. Angle also refers to the length of time a drift is maintained as well as the average angle of the vehicle during the turn. This means that getting the back end to come around for a short period of time won't score the driver many points, even if the angle of rotation was significant. A vehicle that exhibits extreme angles without spinning out will be awarded high points.

    Presentation -How a driver puts speed, line and angle the best will score very well with the judges. There is also another factor and that is how the driver presents his or her drift technique. Just like any other form of competition, there will be an individual with a certain spark or energy that makes them stand out during competition. When a competitor puts that extra flare or energy into their run, the judges may pay more attention to the individual. The most universal component of this category is smoke. The more tyre smoke generated by a vehicle while drifting the more points a driver will score. This category previously included the driver sticking hands/legs out the window or opening the door in a turn, but D1 now requires windows to be rolled up and prohibits door opening, demonstrating a shift in emphasis to more technical aspects of driving.

    How is Tsuiso Battle Judged?

    Tsuiso is the Japanese term for Twin Battle Drift. This head to head style of drifting is judged by the same principles as a solo round. However, there is a high level of strategy behind it that provides for a competitive level and an awesome show for the spectators. The exact judging of this event is difficult to explain because the judges rely on their many years of track experience and knowledge of the vehicle dynamics when issuing the exact points.

    Offensive: Generally the chasing driver has the offensive when in the Twin Battle. An easy analogy is two jet pilots engaged in a dog fight. They chase their prey and do what ever they can to get their target into a dead zone where the prey cannot manoeuvre from. This same principle is used in the Tsuiso style. Driver use their vehicle and its drift to position into a space that minimizes the running drivers ability to keep a good line while staying in a high speed drift. The chasing driver MUST at all times demonstrate a superior drift in order to A) Keep the pressure on the lead driver B) Steal and block a line that may allow the lead driver a good opportunity for a drift. C) Be awarded a superior number of points If a chasing driver is unable to keep up and maintain pressure on the lead driver this will not be good when the time comes for points to be awarded.

    Defensive: When a drive takes the lead in the Tsuiso battle the ideal strategy is to perform a drift a a much higher speed, good line, and a greater angle than the chasing driver. If a lead driver can shake off or intimidate a chasing driver many times the chasing driver will make a mistake when trying to compensate for what seems like erratic actions of the lead car. When a lead driver can pull away with a good angle, following the ideal line while maintaining a controlled drift, the chasing driver has all the pressure to increase performance. The lead driver at this point is winning. Lead drivers many times demonstrate superior skill by suddenly entering a drift at a great angle and going directly to the inside of the corner. To the following driver it appears as though they will T-bone the lead car so they back down and take measures to avoid the lead car. Many times that will cause the chasing car to lose a great amount of speed and not be able to properly execute the corner in a full drift or even worst they may spin out or hit the barriers. This is a ideal outcome for the lead driver in Tsuiso battles.

    In JDM there is the wall rub which scores high. I doubt if you score high in D1 if you spin, even in the event you are pleasing the crowd at the time with some crazy or wild driving. EDC uses entry speed to qualify, measured using a speed gun.

    Ian. :D
     
  18. Will.

    Will. Come at me bro

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    All in all, I had an awesome day and really enjoyed it. It made a really good impression on me, being my first JDm event, although my only criticism would be to give somewhere to sit. Standing up for 9 hours straight did suck a little bit of dick ( and move it from the weekend of Reading festival ;)). The open pit was really awesome too, but when it started raining I hid in the DW tent and got a few "Who the fuck is this guy?" looks :wave:.

    Still a realy good show and recommend it to anyone.
     
  19. Sea Squirrel

    Sea Squirrel Jeff Mills Is Watching!

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    Just to add the decision wasn't just overturned in Trela's favour, it was effectively a one more time so I think that's pretty fair if we're honest. Anyway, as has been said it's all done now.
     
  20. angrydan

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    Anyone was welcome in the dw awnin :-) we the most friendly bunch of guys and gals! ! anyway what is done is done now onto trax this weekend for the smokey federal skids
     

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