CA18DET FULLY FORGED, UPDATES

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  1. bastards-of-street

    bastards-of-street New Member

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    hello guys, finally, after a long time, there are, I need some advice, I ordered all the spare parts for my ca18det, I wanted to get 500hp, as I had communicated, some time ago, but I thought about it, I will aim to get 300-350cv so i bought these pieces

    1 - piston CP 84mm 9.0.1
    2 - Eagle connecting rods 3 main and connecting rod bearings, acl, standard size (crankshaft good, in tolerance, only polished) 4 - bolt head, arp
    5 - cometic gasket kits (head gasket, however, too high, 1.3mm grr)
    6 - fuel pump 340 7 OEM oil pump
    8 - OEM water pump
    9 - large radiator + cooling fans
    10 - spark plugs iridium, cold, number 8
    11 - air filter open
    12 - pipes, 3 "stainless steel, flange, 3" elbow (76mm) 13 boost controller + carburation, innovated scg-1
    14 - stage 4 CC clutch
    15 - timing kit, belt, bearing
    16 - thermostat, in advance

    the head will be ground, even the cylinders,

    Now i want to buy:
    1 Turbo GT2560 Nissan S15 on ball bearings 2 injectors 444cc
    3 maf z32
    4 Stage 3 h-dev chip
    5 intercooler (air-air or air-water?)
    6 exhaust manifolds

    what do you think?

    what power can i get to the max? general assembly advice?

    I hope to get help, a hug from Italy
     
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    bastards-of-street New Member

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    is there anyone??
     
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    r3k1355 Well-Known Member

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    You'll get about 300bhp out of the GT2560R turbo.

    You can do that on a standard engine, standard manifold.
     
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    bastards-of-street New Member

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    hello friend, thanks for the answer, you are always one of the first, I bought all the spare parts, by now the engine will be forged, so further on, the power will increase a lot, the original manifold, they have a crack, as usual, I'm afraid that it can be broken, what can I do to have, 330 HP, as Garrett announces ?
    I want to get the most out of the turbo
     
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    hello guys, today, I decided to go further, point to 350 as a goal, I am undecided between these 3 turbos, gt2860rs-gr2871r-gtx2867r gen 2, I would like the best turbo, which starts first, as I have already asked to r2k1355 also, I want to show you my engine grinding work, what do you think? however, I noticed a big difference between my engine and of a boy engine

    photo number 1, my engine. photo number 2 that of boy engine

    Good day

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  6. r3k1355

    r3k1355 Well-Known Member

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    What did you hone the block with? In picture two you can see some of the markings on the other cylinder where the mans hand is, could it just be a low res photo?

    Out of those 3 turbos the GTX2867R Gen 2 is the best of the list. Have you looked at the new Garrett G25-550?
     
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    bastards-of-street New Member

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    Hey! I sent you a private message, you're right, let's talk here, maybe it might be of interest to someone :) now I upload more photos, it's not the resolution, my engine has a color, metallic, chrome, brushed (40-45 degrees) the engine of that boy, looks, smooth, satin, opaque, does anyone know why?



    for the turbo: I know the turbo g25, I saw it, excellent turbo, a lot of pressure, but it really costs a lot, about 1800 euros, a lot..the maximum that I can spend on the turbo is 1300 euros, therefore the maximum gtx, as I wrote to you privately, I want 350, so as to have 300 HP on the wheels, not bad for drifting, good power, I have read many forums, I am so confused, some say that the gt2871r is faster than the 2860rs, others say that the gtx2867 gen 2 is powerful, but slow, that's why I'm confused, I want the faster turbo, obviously, as we all want: D

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    bastards-of-street New Member

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    can anyone help me with the turbo ??
     
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    Take a GTX2860R GEN2. Make easy 350HP and have a good reaponse.

    Best Regards, ludi
     
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    is it the fastest? what size do you recommend?
    Manifold t25 stock

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    0.64 housing for 350bhp I believe, 0.86 if you want 400+.
    Be sure to port match the manifold, there can be quite alot of difference in some cases.

    Your pictures look fairly typical for a ball-hone, certainly different from the other engine, perhaps it's had other work done so is not a good comparison to your own?
     
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    oh, thanks, waiting for advice, i will definitely buy gt2860r gen 2, a.r 64, injectors evo 560, i have read, they are compatible, i am undecided on which intercooler to put, i would like to install an air-water intercooler, i am undecided on the Size, advice?

    the engine I took it to another workshop, they pointed out a detail to me, the cylinders must be more refined, crossings made better.

    I will drive like a wild boar, when I drive I want to be calm, that nothing can be broken, I am very precise, I prefer to spend more money, but be calm, the work must be done well

    my exhaust manifolds are cracked, shit, shit, shit I'll have to buy them

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    Where exactly is this we're looking at?

    Don't got air-water, air-air is perfectly fine and much less hassle.
     
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    Mine is cracked in the same place. Its the manifold outlet.. think it's common and not an issue
     
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    thank you for replying, then, let's go in order talk about the intercooler, I know, the air-to-air intercooler is very simple, less expensive, reliable, but not efficient, at low speed (drift, events, shows, in parking lots) ), I am very intrigued, I would like to do a test, for me, for others, the air-water intercooler, attracts me, the costs are almost the same, an excellent air-air intercooler, costs in Italy, 250-260 euros, making an air-to-water intercooler costs about 350 euros (intercooler 200, water pump 60, go-kart radiator 40, (or 2 radiators, 80,) cooling fan 60,who knows, the turbo gtx2860 gen 2 a / r 64 (tomorrow I will buy it) as it will behave, the ducts are much shorter, air-air intercooler, total length, ducts, more than 2 meters, air-water ducts length less than one meter..this way, it will be more efficient, more cold air, less pressure turbo, less fuel, less effort, less consumption = more power, what do you say? (I also have an idea to cool the water, without using ice) I should have, very fast spool, what do you say?

    green line air to water
    red line air to air

    note: a boy I know, on his ca18det, forged, rebuilt, uses a turbo g25 660, more than 2 bar of pressure (I think they are 30 PSI), air-water intercooler, excellent results, the temperature is slightly higher, than the temperature environment, very low, very few degrees in winter

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    even a friend of mine, same problem, exhaust manifold defect, shit, how many problems :( I'm afraid, with so much power, it could come off, it could cause damage to the turbo, what can I do? a used exhaust manifold does not cost much, will it work better?
     

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