Joe’s Onevia – BDC – Street Legal – Carloan4u.co.uk

Thread in 'Project Cars and Builds Threads' started by Joe-sef, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. drift it

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    I like alot Joe, colour and kit look spot on mate. Can't wait too see it finished. You changing the rims at all????
     
  2. tippers

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    Worth the read. I forget how meticulous and thorough you are with your prep, but it has made for an amazing car.

    Bring on this season! Expecting good things dude!
     
  3. chrisS14

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    Great read! makes work a bit better reading the updates haha. See you at Round 1 man. Hopefully carving your line in the wall again ;)
     
  4. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    So this happened

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  5. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    Double post
     
  6. drift it

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    Doesn't look to bad Joe. Think it looks okay. Did prefer the street look though.
     
  7. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    yeah, i think everyone will prefer it street spec.

    im going to make a few more changes to the car, it was always going to have the type x front bumper this year. Ive wanted it for years. however as for the wrap

    But it was either, No drifting in 2013 for me, id have to leave the team. and the car wouldn't see the track till 2014 due to other financial commitments.

    Or the car gets Wrapped, i can stay in the team, and am able to drift.

    so there was no contest.

    The warp looks kinda like some early crazy 90's early 2000 jap spec. but just with carloan4u instead of some Jap company. its got base colour that is not white. that was my main concern!

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    Externally im going to sort out the front fitment, and a couple of subtle things, bonnet pins etc! still loads left to do inside and engine bay!

    I wish i can make it more D1SL but its not going to happen with stock wings!
     
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  8. drift it

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    Gotta do what you've got to do Joe.like you said your still gonna be drifting mate.
     
  9. reeperR32

    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    I think the spoiler for some reason looks better now lol
     
  10. Cowpatmatt

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  11. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    Ha Matt, your so funny.

    Ok so, im over the moon about being the the bdc, and the team is awesome the Guys from Car loan 4U are awesome. Could have a more supporting team, so I just gotta make this Look Work. The way it is now is just the best i could do before the wrap got done on a very tight budget and schedule. i have a number of parameters that I need to follow, and a number of adjustable. Im going to try and explain.


    The Old set up was Pig Nose front, Silvia Skirts, 215/40/17 Tyres, the Ride hight was 20mm Lower then now aswell.

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    Now its Type X Front, 180sx Chuki Skirts (i thnk) and 235/40/17 tyres but there infinity’s and i think they are balloon size side walls and if i got them in a performance brand they would be smaller! I also think the front splitter might be on abit of a wonk, but i need to take the body kit off and re fit it anyways so i will see if there is any way to get the rear section of the lip more level. I think this is to to my pringle shaped wings do to the +30mm roll.

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    Now in my head what i Wanted to aim for for 2013 was a Mixture between what i had in 2012
    and
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    Now its easy to slam it to the floor and be like yep its low and awesome etc, but i need to be more cleaver then that. The Car this year has to be able to.

    1 – Get to all the circuits on the BDC fully loaded and not get beached like last year.
    2- Be able to get to Anglesey circuit without being beached
    3- Be able to take advantage of some of the insane driving roads around where i live – i have mountain ranges, rally stages on my door step – for the last few years i haven’t been able to use them without the front subframes lifting the front wheels off the ground,
    4 – in alot of pictures the car looks like its nose diving, the body lined of the car were pointing down
    5- if i go off the track or run wide the car as to be able to look good, and continue on, Last year on the few occasions i went off the bendiness of the Pig nose allowed me to get away with it.
    6 – i need to be able to get off my drive

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    I need to avoid this situation – bdc is stressful enough without having to worry about this.
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    And this does happen....

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    So Im looking at other inspirational cars and why i wanted to get the look – If you look at these R33 rims with tyres on
    [​IMG]

    Now they look like how i imagined 235/40/17 to look not as balloon spec.

    So to make the car look good with some clearance i need it to be aggressive D1 SL style, but its hard to pull off without wide wings. So i need to find a Happy medium.

    So im after some opinions as to what to do these are what i think are the best options in order of preference. – i only have enough money to risk buying 1 set of tyres

    A - Get some 235/40/17 Federal RSR, Hope that the side wall is similar to last pic, so i can get them on, Lower the car 10mm (hopefully another 5 lost in ballon side wall). (this option may result in my bringing the front wheels in 5-10mm each side to improve fitment at cost of lock) AND then get some canards made. To lower the front bumper line at sides. Leaving me some room for mistake.

    B- Get some 215/40/17 the same as before (this will lower the car 5-10 mm Striat away) and then just lower the car a little – this will leave a slightly larger arch gap then i had last year – but i can make it look aggressive by Leaving the wheel fitment abit excessive.

    C- Get a more aggressive front lip, and then do either A or B (chances are i cannot afford this as i would need the part then send it to get wrapped etc- also this is then asking to be ruined)

    That gives you a idea of the kind of parameters i have to play with, an if anyone has a good suggestion im all ears!

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    Ha Matt, your so funny.

    Ok so, im over the moon about being the the bdc, and the team is awesome the Guys from Car loan 4U are awesome. Could have a more supporting team, so I just gotta make this Look Work. The way it is now is just the best i could do before the wrap got done on a very tight budget and schedule. i have a number of parameters that I need to follow, and a number of adjustable. Im going to try and explain.


    The Old set up was Pig Nose front, Silvia Skirts, 215/40/17 Tyres, the Ride hight was 20mm Lower then now aswell.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Now its Type X Front, 180sx Chuki Skirts (i thnk) and 235/40/17 tyres but there infinity’s and i think they are balloon size side walls and if i got them in a performance brand they would be smaller! I also think the front splitter might be on abit of a wonk, but i need to take the body kit off and re fit it anyways so i will see if there is any way to get the rear section of the lip more level. I think this is to to my pringle shaped wings do to the +30mm roll.

    [​IMG]

    Now in my head what i Wanted to aim for for 2013 was a Mixture between what i had in 2012
    and
    [​IMG]

    Now its easy to slam it to the floor and be like yep its low and awesome etc, but i need to be more cleaver then that. The Car this year has to be able to.

    1 – Get to all the circuits on the BDC fully loaded and not get beached like last year.
    2- Be able to get to Anglesey circuit without being beached
    3- Be able to take advantage of some of the insane driving roads around where i live – i have mountain ranges, rally stages on my door step – for the last few years i haven’t been able to use them without the front subframes lifting the front wheels off the ground,
    4 – in alot of pictures the car looks like its nose diving, the body lined of the car were pointing down
    5- if i go off the track or run wide the car as to be able to look good, and continue on, Last year on the few occasions i went off the bendiness of the Pig nose allowed me to get away with it.
    6 – i need to be able to get off my drive

    [​IMG]

    I need to avoid this situation – bdc is stressful enough without having to worry about this.
    [​IMG]

    And this does happen....

    [​IMG]

    So Im looking at other inspirational cars and why i wanted to get the look – If you look at these R33 rims with tyres on
    [​IMG]

    Now they look like how i imagined 235/40/17 to look not as balloon spec.

    So to make the car look good with some clearance i need it to be aggressive D1 SL style, but its hard to pull off without wide wings. So i need to find a Happy medium.

    So im after some opinions as to what to do these are what i think are the best options in order of preference. – i only have enough money to risk buying 1 set of tyres

    A - Get some 235/40/17 Federal RSR, Hope that the side wall is similar to last pic, so i can get them on, Lower the car 10mm (hopefully another 5 lost in ballon side wall). (this option may result in my bringing the front wheels in 5-10mm each side to improve fitment at cost of lock) AND then get some canards made. To lower the front bumper line at sides. Leaving me some room for mistake.

    B- Get some 215/40/17 the same as before (this will lower the car 5-10 mm Striat away) and then just lower the car a little – this will leave a slightly larger arch gap then i had last year – but i can make it look aggressive by Leaving the wheel fitment abit excessive.

    C- Get a more aggressive front lip, and then do either A or B (chances are i cannot afford this as i would need the part then send it to get wrapped etc- also this is then asking to be ruined)

    That gives you a idea of the kind of parameters i have to play with, an if anyone has a good suggestion im all ears!
     
  12. driftescort

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    Glad I am an example of what NOT to do! haha
     
  13. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    Lol your car is perfect - but i need to try to avoid that at all costs lol! getting a 6 part bumber back into reasonable shape and then re wrapped is something i could do without haha.

    However, its going to have to be something substatial as the Magic areo stuff is so strong and durable, but i still think i need to be able to hang the front lip over a curb without self destruct. i think it will take gravel and grass ok.
     
  14. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    looking at this picture againe

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    you can see that the front lip sites much better, so i think that if i strip the front off and refit it i should be able to get a better looking line.
     
  15. reeperR32

    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    what you doing with your pre-facelift front lip? :p
     
  16. mint

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    Im not sure I really get this tbh Joe, Do you mean if it wasn't for the sponsor ship you wouldn't be able to drift AT ALL? Or only in the comps? Because to me.. I would far rather have my car look the way I wanted it to and attend practice days as apposed to the sponsor ship just to get seat time and we all know, you get more seat time when your not doing comps.. I guess it comes down to what you want, Id not like to be in a position though that the only way I could drift would be when someone puts their logo down the side of the car kinda thing :S that's just me though. I only drift now, when I can afford to.

    Not a fan of those wheels though, I think thats why it doesn't seem to flow, also you posted up possibly EVERY excuse every for not lowering the car lol :p I dont really understand that either but that's just me.. The way I see it, Drifting is a show sport, the car needs to look mega and all car's look mega, when their slammed.. There is MILLIONS of people all over the world with actually slammed cars being used for drifting and daily and they just get on with it, they make it work, the make the commitment to it because the difference it makes is all that when it comes to a sport when 'showing off' is the way to win.

    I like the car, :) I preferred it before but I think you should maybe consider different wheel design? Then just do as you said above.. drop it and stop worrying :p I just laugh when the front bumper gets smashed or fall's off etc and im not slammed yet :D

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    This though.. .^ Looks GANGSTER!!!!! Id go with option B though out of your options above mate. Best of luck, will be keeping an eye on this.
     
  17. Hudson.

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    Sounds like you're thinking about it too much dude, just fit a decent 235/40/17 tyre up front, tweak the ride height so its flat and drive like fuck.

    I know this is a skinnyer tyre, and his car looks more jacked up as its on lock, but im sure it'll all look good! Lower it a touch, im sure it'd be fiiiine :)

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  18. Smilybrad

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    The make of tyre isn't going to make any difference to the size od the tyre wall Joe, only the construction of the tyre which could give a different shape of the tyre side wall when mounted possibly but it will be the same size.

    The "40" is a percentage not a mm measurement so your 215/40/17's had a side wall height of (215*0.40=) 86mm where as the 235/40/17's have a side wall of 94mm so you've gained an extra 8mm
    *not taking into account the rolling radius because the way the tyres sit on different rim widths makes a big difference, but the clearance at the top of the wheel to the arch will make a big difference.
    Personally I'd stick with the 235's for grip as long as there decent tyres!
    Brad =)
     
  19. Joe-sef

    Joe-sef -Broseph-

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    Brad on paper what you say it totally right, but on i have ran 215/40/17 on the back for ages, You get like federal 595, yoko, Wanli, Westlake all have a smaller side wall, if you buy things like Profile or sunny or other polish brands the tyres are generally more chunky even if they are the same size, i know this for sure,

    I think im going to get some 235/40/17 in Federal Flavour and take it from there, I can always sell them on un-used.

    I see what your saying mint, It does sound like a load of excuses, You don’t need to tell me about just running it low and bouncing it off stuff, I have been doing that for the last few years. However it has to change.

    What im looking for is a way to make it look badass, I really like the way that some of the Cars Over in Japan Don’t have to be on the Floor To look aggressive.

    Ive done the Street sweeper stuff, but the Subframe is basically the same hight as the front lip last year. Driving 6/7 hours to an event and then getting stuck on speed bumps or the access road, and thing is just not fun, and It takes the fun out of driving. Then getting home and having to repaint the chassis rails every other week. I need the car to look good and be hassle free. I didn’t used to mind spending hours sticking bits of fibreglass together (see like page 2 of this thread) but im getting on and the car is getting more advanced I need to be spending my time building new engine, or improving reliability.

    Now as for the money – As of last Thursday I picked up some keys to a house, which I just brought, because I was throwing away so much money in rent, So now I have a place – This year I have to spend my spare cash getting the decorated, I also want to build and kit out a little workshop. So that in the next few years drifting is Sustainable this engine isn’t going to last forever I want to up the power a bit. So for this year I have no disposable income. My MOT, tax, insurance, BDC entry fees are all this month, so if I paid my car insurance I wouldn’t have been able to afford entry fees /drifting for the first few months of the year. And this year would have been much like last Drifting June- October – doing half a season.

    There is also another side to the coin is that driving in the BDC is awesome, I want to keep upping my driving game, and keep progressing. I need to be in the BDC to improve I think. I just need it to be sustainable and as stress free as possible.

    I want some canards tho, Think im going to have to get them made, or something.

    @hudson i reocn there going to be 235/40/17 streched on 9.5/10 J
     
  20. Sea Squirrel

    Sea Squirrel Jeff Mills Is Watching!

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    Like what you say about canards, they make everything look better. If it's clearance you're worried about then going to a lower profile front tyre AND lowering the car a little to get looks is going to sacrifice all the clearance, surely? Why not just run some more noticable reverse rake and bring the fronts down a little with the current tyre profile? Gives you plenty of clearance up front and will look a lot more aggressive in the way it sits too.
     

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