Question to all AT Soarer drifters

Thread in 'Drifting Chat / Pictures / Videos' started by sulik, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. sulik

    sulik Member

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    Hello guys,

    at the moment i´m running an AT Toyota Soarer.
    My plans are to put my Holset on it, weld the diff, and then i want to do some drift trainings and stuff...

    But i got something in my head and no one has got an answer for me:

    Is it possible to drift an automatic (Soarer) on tight corners?
    Because of the gearbox..

    Hope anyone can help me. :)
     
  2. SX_BIG

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    yes. iirc ricky hero emery stuck it in '2' and was able to skid all of mallory inc the hair pins
     
  3. reeperR32

    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    Ask dale b on here. He's doing some weird shifter mod thing for these
     
  4. dale_b

    dale_b #DriftFactory

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    Yeah iv done one now, made it so you can smash it in to 'L' without having to press the button for the slower tighter stuff. I'll get picks up later:thumbs:

    I think your better off starting to learn to skid it without the holset dude, standard power is all you need:thumbs:
     
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    dale_b #DriftFactory

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    Iirc, I'm Ricky Hero Emery Bitches has a manual gearbox..
     
  6. Stavros

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    He was doing Awesomefest with a nearly stock auto.

    Doing bloody good too.
     
  7. Stavros

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    Here's a vid...

     
  8. sulik

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    Hmm okay good to know.
    But i don´t (or didn´t?? :wack:) know the layout of mallory park.
    I already know thanks.... :thumbs:
    Yeah i think it´s easier without the Holset, but you know: I WANT IT SOOOO MUCH!!!! :rolleyes:
    I´m still waiting on your guide how to mod the shifter -> so hurry up mate.

    I saw that you have got a hydraulic handbrake installed.
    When you want to use it, you´re change the shifter to "N" and then pull the hydro.
    Then you´re change the stick to "L" or "2nd" and floor the gas right?

    @stav
    Nice video!

    @topic
    We got some good places here in germany like the "Hockenheimring" or the "Nurburgring" or an old airport called "Neuhausen".
    And some of them are very tight.

    I asked because we can´t clutch kick with our automatics.

    At first i need to weld my diff, then buy a steering wheel + hub.
    And then go to our TUV and let them check my exhaust.... f*ck them.
    They must change the car papers too.
     
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    ah, stavs beat me to it. awesomefest mallory like he has said. and yep, he was doing very well ( annoyingly :p )
     
  10. Stavros

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    Danny Neville is one to speak to as well, he has never had bother linking tracks at Pod (inc the v.tight/slow bits) in Auto Soarer or Lexus LS400.

    He uses a hydraulic handbrake too, just leaves it in gear and yanks the wand, no need to go to N he said.
     
  11. sulik

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    Okay let me think about it....
    Are the hydros so strong that they will block the rear wheels when the gear is still in?
    I think that i will need a hydro too.
     
  12. blazingburger

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    My auto stagea would stall if I span and forget to put it in N.
    Never tried the wand before I sold it but wouldn't wana lock the back with out the clutch disengaged. Unless the toyota auto boxes are different sounds dangerous to me.
     
  13. sulik

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    Can someone explain me please what "the wand" means?
     
  14. Stavros

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    Wand- Magic Wand - Bar - etc etc = Handbrake

    You dont need to LOCK the back wheels anyhow, if anything thats a bad thing, nothing gayer than a big long locked rear wheel skid.

    But a good yank on the wand will be enough to upset the back end and get you sliding, in gear or not.

    Maybe Danny Neville will appear and explain, who knows.
     
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    dale_b #DriftFactory

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    Arrr yes, I know mr Neville well.... He's only recently got hydro wands fitted in his fleet of drift vehicles. I believe he did his first year of learning in an auto soarer, and it shows, very large testicles to say the least, but when you compair the way he enters and exits rounds compared to our friend josh in a 318is you can tell he learnt in an auto, uses wand on the way in rather than shift locking with a violent flick, but then makes big smoke on the round about then manji's for miles up the track...lol

    The LS400 is still in the fleet, she's a beauty.. It's an Arena Essex Taxi that one:thumbs:
     
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    Iv got an big wand in mine:euge: it's fine to pull while in gear, you just get a slight delay in the power when you nail it after releasing the wand while the gearbox works out what the fuck just happened.
     
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    Regarding the way soarers skid in general.. Heavy. But you get used to using the weight, at pod for example, first time for me on the big track there and first time skidding an auto, after a few laps I was coming off the big corner at the top of second and giving a jab to the wand 40yrd before the little corner then just letting it slide with its weight with no power or no wand.. you can just let it scrubb the speed off and do nothing but point it. Quite a few times I had to drop into 'L'(1st) on the tight bit there because I slowed down to much, then back into '2' on the transition for the rest of the S's. I started linking the whole track in '2' without issue until my PAS pump failed.

    Also like to add regarding 1st gear on the tight bits, there is enough 'go' in 1st gear to keep it there and skid most of pod only changing to 2nd for the big corner... 1st gear is long but with the twin turbo setup it's really responsive and picks up quickly if you just feather the throttle even when your not moving that fast.
    This is why 1j powerz are considered 'cheating', 'a cop out', 'in-pure', etc... And the reason iv got one... Lol:thumbs:
     
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  19. sulik

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    Great feedback i´ll read yout shifter mod tutorial now.... :thumbs:
     
  20. burgerboy78

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    i found out from doing king of the ring last night in an auto soarer that if you yank the handbrake the wheels will lock, but then when you put your foot on the accelerator to get the wheels spinning again theres a 2 second delay sort of thing, by which time youve straightened up.

    so i dunno if you disconnect the handbrake switch it might improve it. but the hydro option seems logical because thats seperate to stock handbrake and the gearbox wouldnt know whats going on.

    (sorry for the crazy thread bump)
     
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