S14 1jz clutch master problem

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    Cmc is fouling with stock twins can anyone suggest a different cmc that will fit and work please
     
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    Went to the scrap yard with a tape measure and had a scout around for master cylinders and there was only 2 that looked like an option vectra and almiera but the almiera one looks to close to s14 one so vex is the only option from there. I had a look online and seen a range rover one that union coming from the top of the master cylinder. Just not sure how big these are?

    Still thinking that the vectra one is possibly the only way!
     
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    Might look into using a merc sprinter internal master at this rate as there is limited space in engine bay and nothing seems to want to fit without having a lot of modification
     
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    Wilwood cylinders have a top exit and come in a variety of sizes. They have different mounting points though.
     
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    Heard of people using vectra ones with v8 swaps before to clear the right bank
     
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    Is it pos to change the mounting position easily or is the bulkhead thicker where it mounts stock?
     
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    Well my plan as I can't think of any other way is too drill and bolt the clutch mc to the bulk head. Hopefully the bulkhead is strong enough
     
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    Right using a land rover clutch master cylinder it will fit but the bolts don't line up! Can anyone tell me the best method to get around this as the stock s14 cluth master is mounted to the clutch pedal box studs! So bolting it to the bulk head skin is probably not the strongest method! Ideas please ppl? So I can stop asking silly questions!
     
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    Do you happen to know what the measurement is on the vectra cylinder from bulkhead forward?
     
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    I have forgotten exact measurement but I seem to remember it being around 8cm
     
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    as said above seen a vectra one used on an s14 with a 1uz swap
     
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    Very usefull link mate but only worry is that a few ppl complain about the pedal travel using a vectra cmc
     
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    can you keep us updated with what you go for and how it fits please
     
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    Team sunset used a BMW E34 540 Bmc (remote res). Married the BMW pedal to the S14 one. As you would expect with using the appropriate BMC for the slave it works spot on, factory spec...

    But, I would say looking at your project thread your engine is too far back (of course not a bad thing at all!! Lol) to still be able to use the above method...

    - Clive -
     
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    I'm using a Soarer MC on my car, the neck goes up and passed the rear turbo..

    Here's a picture of a Soarer one on the left, Mklll Supra on the right.
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    Right it's fairly straight forward ! I
    Made a backing plate out of 3mm steel then pulled out the clutch pedal box out and marked stud positions and drilled them, then found center and drilled a big whole ( big enough for the back part of cylinder, then placed the cylinder on it in the correct position and marked the wholes and drilled them out. The took the plate and bolted it to the bulkhead and drilled the new cmc bolt positions. Then I placed the plate on the inside of the bulkhead and bolted the new bmc to the bulk head then but the pedal box back in and bolted that up.

    Result ......[​IMG]

    There is more space just bad photo and bad angle
     
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    This was a land rover cmc I thought I would try after seeing that sikky sell these as conversion cmc for lots of cars
     
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    Right back on this subject as I must raise the engine an inch leaving me with a fouling Cmc again! I have heard people say that they have had issues using the vectra ones as they won't fully disengage the clutch. I've been looking around and a few have caught my eye!

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    Rover/ honda

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    Fiat bravo

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    Mk 4 golf

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    Mk3 golf jetta


    If any one else has a suggestion please let me know
     

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