Your thoughts 4x4 tow vehicle

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  1. reeperR32

    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    Talk to me about;

    Jeep Cherokee 2.5td manual sport probs

    Discovery td300 2.5td manual

    Discos I know rust badly and have a lot more miles for te money

    Both can be had for under £1500 but the jeeps seem slightly better nik and lower miles for the cash

    Required to tow skid car and be used daily - manuals a must to help with fuel economy which is why I'm looking at these two on particular

    Your experience with both please
     
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    Have you looked at the towing capacity for them, as the trailer plated weight is what legally counts, (so to even tow an empty 3.5t trailer that probably weighs 700kg, you need a vehicle with a towing capacity of 3500kg). As for economy, the discovery is supposed to be crap, Jeep is better but I seem to remember reading they were a bit of a donkey!

    I've looked into both before but got put off for various reasons.

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    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    Yes jeep can tow upto 2500kg so no problem there

    Ps I'm doin my trailer test in a week so weight 3.5t don't matter
     
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    I would recommend the landrover simply becase there so much cheaper to repair than the jeeps also the jeep td is prone to head gasket issuses, 4 heads to have skimed to!!
     
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    I have had a frontera and that was pretty good to be fair

    My best tow vehicle was a 6.2 diesel Chevy pick up could tow the world and fit 34 wheels in the back
     
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    Thats not what I mean, even with a trailer test, if you want to tow a 3.5t trailer you won't be able to, (legally), with the Jeep. I don't know what the gross weight of your trailer is so may be irrelevent.

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    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    Dan lol bit much for me

    From my research

    Disco cons are;
    When rust comes there good for scrap
    Slow as fuk
    Juicy

    Jeep;
    Weak heads
    Weak inj's

    BUT as with any 4x4 heads seem to be weak like shogun and pajero 2.5's

    I had an exceed paj 2.8 and amazing but juicy

    Dan, funnily I was also considering frontera 2.2dti but know nothing about them
     
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    i had the 2.8tdi and it worked well had full leather etc

    there are some cheap mazda b220 pick up on ebay and warriors etc
     
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    Our best has been a 1978 GMC sierra, with full size crew cab, full size bed and 454ci V8. Could seat eight, carry anything in the back and still cruise at 80+, (speedo needle had a fault and fell to the bottom at 82mph), with whatever you wanted to connect to the towbar!

    Unfortunately as it's got to be a daily, 7.4ltr V8 and 21' long is a drawback!

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    reeperR32 Drift-Street-Imports

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    I'm confused.

    I don't have a trailer yet but either way it will be 500-750kg for one even if I rent. Then add the car 1.3-1.5t would = 2.5t in a worst case scenario

    So where is this 3.5t coming into it.

    I know without a license the rule and with a rigid truck transit etc 3.5t so I don't get what your referring to??
     
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    The Jeep will drive you crackers, they are positively agricultural to drive in comparison with the Discos IMHO.
    My mum has a Cherokee, I have a Disco, both are '03. The Jeep is cheaper and nastier, no question.
     
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    As I said, it's the plated weight, as in, the max weight the trailer can weigh, loaded, what it actually weighs when attached to the back of your car is irrelevent.

    For example, we have a plant trailer that weighs 700kg, but with a plated weight of 3.5t, (so I can put a 2.8t load on it), but I can't legally tow it empty behind my Volvo, even though I have a towing capacity of 1.5t.

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    scoobystu on here has got one. Think its a grand cherokee.

    Speak to him dude. He spent a fair wodge of cash at my work (motor factors) on it lol
     
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    this was my one would do 30mpg used it daily just took up x2 spaces in carparks lol but was red neck as hell and sounded insane wish i had never sold it
     
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    i drive a fooking awesome battered disco as a daily and love it! had a 4.0 jeep cherokee before and hated it!

    the disco is bullet proof ive tipped it over.. crashed into everything and anything and it still comes back for more!

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    basically each vehicle has a legal towing weight that it can tow that has to be above the weight of the trailer + Car + anything extra you put on the trailer spares etc
     
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    Think I get it.. Most trailers I've seen have a loading weight of 2t so that should be fine for what I want correct?
     
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    its not the trailer its the towing vehicle, the towing vehicle will have a plate with the towing weights on normally a braked trailer weight and a non braked trailer weight
     
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    If it's got a gross, (Plated weight), of below the tow vehicles max tow weight, (Max Allowable Mass), then yes you're laughing!

    Alex B
     
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    It's both, the trailers plated weight has to be below the car's max tow weight. Staying legal while towing is a minefield.

    The other thing you need to be aware of, is if you are towing for hire or reward, (and prize money is classed as reward), and the unit weight is over 3.5t, you need an operators licence, tacho and all the crap that goes with it. So just make sure you're not! ;)

    Alex B
     
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